Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Exiled_Tonberry]

Erm, no? It heal the selected target by 40% more if it is a single target heal.

It heals you twice, or two people at once. That is what I just said, but you're going to call me out because I didn't get into specifics.

Stop trying to contradict every single point we're discussing by twisting what we say to the absolute max. You're making yourself look stupid, to be blunt. You're not even trying to make points anymore, just being obnoxious.

[Caduagm]

That's still a 40% buff.

That's still a 40% for a SINGLE TARGET which is the only way we putting someone at 100% HP within 3 seconds.
And btw, Benediction got it recast cutted by half.

[Subasu]

Erm, no? It heal the selected target by 40% more if it is a single target heal.

No. You tether yourself to another person. This frees you from healing them to heal another person and the person you are tethered to gets 40% of the heal on the person you are healing that isn't the synastry target. As it stands now (which will be taken away in SB) applying synastry on a target also increases your healing potency by 20%.

[Mahkii]

I don't think this thread's purpose was for other jobs to come in and start flame wars with people who play WHM. Please ignore trolls and get back on the topic of providing constructive feedback to SE's developers. Thank you.

[Nixxe]

I don't raid and I'm pretty casual in terms of what content I do, so a lot of the raid concerns don't really bother me. The changes I've seen don't really concern me, though lily RNG will probably annoy me. I mostly just dislike that the role abilities were obtained by taking them from WHM and forcing WHM to choose when it used to get them all. This isn't exactly enriching my life as a healer or making me glad that I play WHM.

I guess it's worth adding that I don't necessarily use Cure or Cure II a lot, especially as I get more familiar with content and out gear it. Adding lilies isn't really going to change that, so it would be nice if other spells had a chance to proc them so I could just go on my merry way healing however I feel like and mostly ignoring the RNG.

[dark494]

I'm gonna laugh when we get content that does repeated tank busters or raid aoe's for a full minute requiring both healers to spam cures/medicas over and over and over again to deal with it.

I find this whole thing just funny. Like back before HW came out how everyone was all over how "dead" and "garbage" DRK was. And then the raiders took it and got world first with it, and it immediately became the meta tank that pushed out pld. And received no significant changes for the entirety of HW.

This is just crazy kneejerk reactions.

[fantasticm]

They DO have, but we didnt hear any complain after whm having his spot guaranteed by 3/4 of Heavensward time until SE buffed balance.
Also just saying other classes are getting hit harder than WHM and we see few complainers about it.

If you want to talk about the changes to other jobs and how you think they could be improved upon, why not go post in those threads? They exist, there are a few threads discussing SCH on the first page alone.

What if lilies reduced the MP cost of our skills instead? 1 lily = 5% MP reduction, 2 lilies = 10% and 3 lilies = 15% (or 20% dealers choice). This makes gaining lillies desirable, because WHMs already suffer MP problems, even with Largeese, we will still be wanting for MP. With MP reduction, we won't be killing ourselves for playing our class to the fullest.

I was thinking about this earlier, a good passive trait just for having lilies would be awesome. I don't think those numbers would be quite as high, but it would actually make lilies worth having. Especially if it was MP reduction, it could negate our need to take Lucid Dreaming - content permitting.

[Mahkii]

I was thinking about this earlier, a good passive trait just for having lilies would be awesome. I don't think those numbers would be quite as high, but it would actually make lilies worth having. Especially if it was MP reduction, it could negate our need to take Lucid Dreaming - content permitting.

Something you made me think about is lillies increasing your personal damage by some % per lilly. In this scenario, they would be acting like compensation for having to GCD a heal.

[Cynfael]

I'm gonna laugh when we get content that does repeated tank busters or raid aoe's for a full minute requiring both healers to spam cures/medicas over and over and over again to deal with it.

If that happens, I'll laugh with you, but there's nothing in SE's history of designing this game that should lead anyone to believe that desperately high healing requirements will be implemented across the board with 4.0.

You don't need to have played the 4.0 client to express legitimate concerns based on the information available thus far. The Lily system alone should have everyone, including SE, scratching their heads.

[Mahkii]

If that happens, I'll laugh with you, but there's nothing in SE's history of designing this game that should lead anyone to believe that desperately high healing requirements will be implemented across the board with 4.0.

You don't need to have played the 4.0 client to express legitimate concerns based on the information available thus far. The Lily system alone should have everyone, including SE, scratching their heads.

To take this one step further, we have no reason to believe that 4.0 WHM is designed such that it would be better at handling this than any other healer. I do not believe that SE would think that would be a good idea either.