Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Feidam]

Which five skills? Cause shroud of saints was weaker than what you got back. I'm sorry this is not a loss for the whm. Divine seal yeah it was and everyone has a weaker version now. Protect yeah ya lost it, and I had hoped you get a utility in it's place but whm did not. Esuna everyone lost but I don't think is huge has esuna isn't needed at every fight or instance. Some nice flexibility there. Cleric stance yeah you lost it, but with the mid change it really isn't a loss. Really only lost two skills in the grand scheme of things. Protect and divine seal. Again I wish they had given something utility wise in place of that but they went for high dps and as your utility. This could be rectified maybe with some good constructive feedback since we know they are at least listening.

[Saraphin]

Which five skills? Cause shroud of saints was weaker than what you got back. I'm sorry this is not a loss for the whm. Divine seal yeah it was and everyone has a weaker version now. Protect yeah ya lost it, and I had hoped you get a utility in it's place but whm did not. Esuna everyone lost but I don't think is huge has esuna isn't needed at every fight or instance. Some nice flexibility there. Cleric stance yeah you lost it, but with the mid change it really isn't a loss.

i believe, overall, the issue is that the basic WHM toolkit was ripped away, yes some of the new ones are better and the MND to DPS instead of INT on spells may very well be good. The biggest thing is the rip away of the toolkit and...seemingly RNG to replace it.

[Feidam]

i believe, overall, the issue is that the basic WHM toolkit was ripped away, yes some of the new ones are better and the MND to DPS instead of INT on spells may very well be good. The biggest thing is the rip away of the toolkit and...seemingly RNG to replace it.

The rng could work with enough ways to generate the lillies. Keeping it on cure and cure 2 does seem a bit much.

The confession stacks could work beautifully too with a few tweaks.

[Keridwyn]

Which five skills? Cause shroud of saints was weaker than what you got back. I'm sorry this is not a loss for the whm. Divine seal yeah it was and everyone has a weaker version now. Protect yeah ya lost it, and I had hoped you get a utility in it's place but whm did not. Esuna everyone lost but I don't think is huge has esuna isn't needed at every fight or instance. Some nice flexibility there. Cleric stance yeah you lost it, but with the mid change it really isn't a loss.

We still have to buy them back with slots, be they better or worse. What you are suggesting is we can have E4E only when we don't need Esuna which is sad at best since we are already behind in base skills.

We need a few replacements and they shouldn't be RNG based. What has us angry is we lost too much for too little in return.

[Feidam]

We still have to buy them back with slots, be they better or worse. What you are suggesting is we can have E4E only when we don't need Esuna which is sad at best since we are already behind in base skills.

We need a few replacements and they shouldn't be RNG based. What has us angry is we lost too much for too little in return.

Why not keep eye for and eye and give up cleric's stance when esuna is needed? Or rescue? Rescue will be nice for some encounters and not needed in others. If we can switch between fights with no downtime it becomes even less an issue as imo all healers will cast protect then drop it unless someone dies or the run takes a while. I don't think it is as black and white as people are making it out to be. I could be wrong but until we see the expansion we won't really know. The lack of a utility skill I do see as a larger problem.

[Keridwyn]

Why not keep eye for and eye and give up cleric's stance when esuna is needed? Or rescue? Rescue will be nice for some encounters and not needed in others. If we can switch between fights with no downtime it becomes even less an issue as imo all healers will cast protect then drop it unless someone dies or the run takes a while. I don't think it is as black and white as people are making it out to be. I could be wrong but until we see the expansion we won't really know. The lack of a utility skill I do see as a larger problem.

Already gave up CS to take swiftcast. To take E4E we would have to give up taking new SoS, Protect, new DS, or Esuna.

We don't even get to play with Rescue or Break unless we are co-healing and our co-healer takes Esuna and Protect so we don't have to.