Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

Originally Posted by Metsonm

I still don't really get this argument. It's not like White Mage had Leeches AND Esuna. It's not like Dark Knight was running around with Shadowskin AND Rampart. I don't see how it detracted from the game by giving different jobs different flavours.

speaking from a technical point of view having to create the same action 3 times with different names, designs, etc is just taking up extra space when it can all be put into 1 move. This creates room for them to add more new actions with different functionality I believe.

First Forum post incoming so forgive any mistakes! part 1/3

Secret of the lillies:
Cure 1 = 25% proc
Cure 2 = 45% proc
cure 3 = 65% proc

Due to wanting to keep the pure healer fantasy the lillies should instead of reducing cooldown of the OGCD's should instead give these a potency (healing and damage) increase. people are worried about the lack of utility the class will bring since it will lack say the damage of sch and buffs that an astro can bring but if a WHM could put out a steady increase of huge potency heals through OGCD's they can DPS more. Assize is already better due to mind being out damage scaling stat as well so being able to increase the potency of it through lillies would greatly help the whm out. While I am not one to crunch numbers, I wouldn't be able to tell you what potency increases per lilly should be without it becoming too powerful or too low. This would help consolidate the loss of Divine seal as a WHM only ability.

Can we get a party max hp buff for white mage for them to heal more hp lol

LazarusRising Or just stop popping idea of you hat with numbers taken out of nowhere with no idea of what could be balanced. ^_^

The only legitimate idea is to converte hot in direct heal saddly it's taken from another MMORPG and had nothing to do with what SE wants the WHM to be.

I'm curious. Is there any improvement at all if the following got changed:
- The old oGCD stuff doesn't consume any lilies at all
- Divine Benison only eats up one lily.
- Lilies last one minute if not refreshed by a proc
- GCD reduction is thus based on total # of lilies active and applies to everything

So basically treat lilies as a more or less passive GCD reduction that you can sacrifice for up to three emergency stoneskins.

Originally Posted by Teykos

So basically treat lilies as a more or less passive GCD reduction that you can sacrifice for up to three emergency stoneskins.

The thing is: Divine Benison will eat up any and ALL lillies, regardless of how many you have...and is on a 60s CD...there's no multiple Emergency Stoneskins. you have to wait for it to come off CD again.

Originally Posted by IttyBitty

I'm assuming he's suggesting it be changed to have no cooldown, so it basically becomes like Lustrate, but for mitigation. It's an interesting idea, but not one I can really support. There's little need for back-to-back mitigation like that (if THAT'S needed, then you probably need general raidwide mitigation anyway), and WHM needs mitigation at a much lower level than 66, due to mechanics in older content.

Recast reduction is also a terrible bonus, so while it working that way is better, it's still a very unsatisfying system in general.

...why would I, as a WHM, want lustrate? that's the SCH's thing, i like it being the SCHs thing. I always forget they have it then: Boom! "wait...wha...oh! the other healer's a SCH, derp. that's what i get for not looking at the list, but YAY!".

Someone earlier pointed out about the recast thing: It's like Spire. and that's the worst card in the AST toolkit.

Originally Posted by Saraphin

...why would I, as a WHM, want lustrate? that's the SCH's thing, i like it being the SCHs thing. I always forget they have it then: Boom! "wait...wha...oh! the other healer's a SCH, derp. that's what i get for not looking at the list, but YAY!".

Someone earlier pointed out about the recast thing: It's like Spire. and that's the worst card in the AST toolkit.

He said like Lustrate in the sense it eats Aetherflow with no real cooldown. Not that we should get Lustrate wholesale.

Basically triple Stoneskin with no cooldown.