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  1. #1531
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    13unny's Avatar
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    Character
    Sukoshi Mysh
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Keridwyn View Post
    Your AoE was gutted, our class was gutted. We straight up have fewer abilities than you do before you even add in the utility abilities your fairy has. Don't get me wrong, I do feel for you those are some brutal dps cuts but your new abilities are actually useful to you and not just tacked on RNG that doesn't add anything.

    Also AST lost nothing they can't get from Role abilities now except maybe Blizzard II.

    My bad, rip Stella and Disable. You will be missed in PvP.
    Disable, Aero are skills they cannot gain back! IN PVE!
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    Last edited by 13unny; 06-04-2017 at 05:10 AM.

  2. #1532
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    Mahkii's Avatar
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    Character
    Elyenorae Rush
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by zuzu-bq View Post
    You guys are ignoring the fact that you don't even need to time and get a 675 free instant heal on the Earthly Dominance.
    From my point of a view, the changes to AST are nice additions. WHM was already a bad option and SE did nothing to address it.
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  3. #1533
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    Keridwyn's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Keridwyn Maeve
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by 13unny View Post
    Disable, Aero are skills they cannot gain back!
    I mentioned Disable at the bottom and if the loss of Aero is that much of a hardship you need to take it up with SE to get that crucial part of your kit back just like we WHM would like our Stoneskin back.
    (1)

  4. #1534
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    Niroken's Avatar
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    Character
    Nanaki Naki
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by 13unny View Post
    Oh I said that bad, I was talking about their new gauge. 0-100 they gain noting really from it. It allows them now to use certain skills just like lilies! Even now Sheltron takes that gauge! That is more hurtful then what lilies are! Yet you see everyone wanting to switch over to them xD
    Correct me if I'm wrong, PLD's gauge isn't RNG based and using any skill that uses the gauge doesn't completely empty the gauge. BLM Enochian doesn't need to stay up but you are rewarded for doing so, plus it's a lot of good info on a single UI. AST has a great quality of life UI amount the other massive buffs they gained. DRG I'm not sure but will research more after work.
    (7)

  5. #1535
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    Olipopsicle's Avatar
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    Character
    Oli Lombi
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 70
    Just make Stone have a chance to give confession stacks to a random ally. That way, WHMs can heal by dpsing!
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  6. #1536
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    Saraphin's Avatar
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    Character
    Dante Haiwindo
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Niroken View Post
    DRG I'm not sure but will research more after work.
    DRG Gauge looked rather intuitive, but i won't be able to know until i actually get to play it. DRG also did seem to get extra utility, but it's all in how it plays out and we'll see how it all goes now, I am moderately excited for DRG (as it's my current DPS - and forgotten because of ACC - Main).
    (0)

  7. #1537
    Player
    Keridwyn's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Keridwyn Maeve
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by 13unny View Post
    Disable, Aero are skills they cannot gain back! IN PVE!
    Yet you seem to be okay with Stella going. Seriously I saw more AST with Stoneskin and Surecast than I ever saw with Aero except in PvP. Saw a ton of it there. We can keep playing the 'who lost more' game but the answer is WHM every time.

    Although I do feel for SCH and the AoE nerf. I would give them some love if I could.
    (8)

  8. #1538
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    Retribution_79's Avatar
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    Character
    Twinkle Brightstar
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 20
    Quote Originally Posted by Wanzer View Post
    I'm wrong because i'm saying not to jump too fast on people and to ask right questions to make a real debate to understand all points of view? Sure. I'm even a beast.

    And about your "always" wrong : most of the time i'm not taking part in any sort of debate. So, unless you are one of the alt of a certain person, I don't see your point here. And even so, there was still no reason to come to me here.
    Nope still wrong!
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  9. #1539
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    Yhximott's Avatar
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    Character
    Tamsus Sostas
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 80
    People need to remember that just because WHM now has the highest raw, personal DPS of the healers doesn't mean they'll contribute the most DPS to a raid or party. Chain Stratagem grants a +20% crit chance to EVERYONE in the group, so you can take credit for a portion of the damage dealt during its duration, and The Balance has always increased group DPS, so you can take credit for a minimum of 10% raid DPS during its duration. Any time you grant a buff to the party or a debuff to the boss, that's technically part of YOUR DPS, even if it doesn't show up on a parser. These are modifiers the likes of which WHM has never had, and remains without.
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  10. #1540
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    Rynn21's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    75
    Character
    Euphy Seurian
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 90
    What bothers me is:
    1) how much WHM is losing or sharing with other healers
    2) all of the horrible skill name changes (I love the names Shroud of Saints and Divine Seal)
    While we're on that...Virus was an awesome name
    3) WHM losing Stoneskins. Just, no.
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