Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

The only thing I really wish to be added is a proc rate on hot ticks, heavily reduced (probably 1/20 instead of 1/5) for lilies, confession and the cd reductions. Some additional party wide buffs that allow us to help party damage would also be nice.

Confession is an interesting concept. But being random and lasting only 30s might make it to be unreliable. And you simply lose it if you let it fall off. It should give you something back when its gone like DRK's Darkest Night shield that appearently gives you Blood Gauge regardless if its broken or just wears out. Something like giving a sure lilly when it falls off or healing the target for half of the Confession stacks' potency would be cool. Something like "It heals the target by 100 potency for each Confession stacks when effects expire." And adjust Plenary's potencies accordingly.

Divine Benison is strong and would be an amazing skill but appearently can only be used if you have lillies? That's so weird. Also ability recast reducing based on randomness was already considered bad during all of Heavensward and that is why people treat Spear as the worst AST card. To sum up about lillies. If 20% cooldown reduction was something actually good people would use Spear and they never ever did unless they had no other choice since AST debut.

Also the 20% chance to reduce cds only after a critical heal lands is so bad. It's so unreliable. ACN currently have a trait that works just like this but on pet criticals, in a whole raid night of three or more hours you get that proc less than 10 times during the WHOLE NIGHT. Its realistic chance of happening is as low as getting that people will ignore it even exists just like they do with Enhanced Pet actions on SMN and SCH right now.

In the end, every Cure and Cure II can give the WHM a random something and this itself isn't a bad concept. The issue is that the effects you can get are not very good themselves. It could be extended to Medica though.

Why do we want the best healing class even more OP where it is simply going to get nerf down?
I do not get how so many failed to understand how strong these changes are to WHM.
1) They are not doing the most damage out of all 3 healers (Even more since AST has to waste time drawing cards, since lost a spell could weave it with)
2) Why does everyone act like you have to get up to 3 lilies? They didn't increase the CD of older skills so why have 3? If you throw a fast cure/cure 2 on the tank you might get a free 15% shield or 400 pot cure to top them off even more
3) Same again for Confessions? It is simply going to be another free heal on the tank if you get a proc you're not trying to get 3 all the time. No point in trying to build it up as an AoE take it as another free instant cast heal!
4) Given that they now have so many oGCD they can dps longer then both SCH and AST. While both of them have to sit there spending time healing part members.
5) They can keep MT up for so long at the start of the fight that allows both Healers just able to spam their DPS
6) Thin Air is stupid strong PoM + TA for DPS/AoE DPS/Ressing
7) Have to rely less on other assisting them for mana. SCH already has a huge mana cost to DPS now, AST is a little cheaper but not by much in terms of mana. Though with Assize and TA can last longer then other 2. Might even be able to not take Core Class mana regen skill.

Think of it this way fight starts you have 3 lilies and 3 con stacks on MT. Takes some damage you shield then give the free cure 3 on MT to top off. After that use Bene since lost 2 mins on CD want to use it more during the fight now! Tank takes some high damage again simply use Tetra. Can also use Asylum/Assize to help deal with AoE party might take. Never once needing to cast a heal way far into the fight if damage is the same as it is now!


What do ast bring now still just balance? Since people only care about dps lady is a wasted card. They trip draw can be worthless as well. We know people care only about their own dps and well that is the only reason they will want AST so they can get a balance. Other then that class offers nothing ~_~ Please buff AST first since weakest of the 3 healers now!

My opinion is I don't see the lily system being bad really. The numbers seem somewhat low or they should proc off a couple more heals so lily generation has the potential to continue in situations other than single target healing. The idea behind plenary indulgence is solid too imo. The only change here is the heal should fire off from the one with the stack of confessions and then be a standard aoe unless medica/medica 2 are allowed to proc confessions. I also think stoneskin should be returned to the game Divine benison changed to a small utility buff for the mages. Maybe like they can give somone a 5% damage and haste buff(i.e.both skill and spell speed)

Originally Posted by IhzaMhaskova

AST is head and shoulders above the other two healers.

Originally Posted by IhzaMhaskova

AST has a 900 potency aoe heal that with class action skills is around 970.

Absolutely no combination of WHM skills reach that level of healing.

900 Potency that takes 10 seconds to go off! If you have time can simply use Asylum to top group off >.>
Also Asylum heals more then their 900 Potency heal xD
1 Asylum healed for 13,642 and well had to use 950 potency (Cure 2 + Assize) = 12,989
If you do not have time still have Asylum+Assize or simply one of their 3 AoE spells xD
Also what if AoE is nonstop? What if the boss cast 4 mega holy back to back to back to back? That would destroy the AST where WHM will simply laugh and not use 1 mp to keep party up ^.^

They only bring balance and nothing else. xD

Originally Posted by 13unny

What do ast bring now still just balance? Since people only care about dps lady is a wasted card. They trip draw can be worthless as well. We know people care only about their own dps and well that is the only reason they will want AST so they can get a balance. Other then that class offers nothing ~_~ Please buff AST first since weakest of the 3 healers now!

You want more buffs on top of the buffs they already have planned to ast? Troll