Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[TonberiScholar]

With Stormblood, WHM has a noticeable ability deficit compared to SCH/AST.

There are perceptible level gaps at levels 6, 34 and 42 where White Mage does not get abilities and the other Healers do. SCH has a gap at 34 but an extra at 38 so it evens out for them, but not for WHM.

I've compiled the data in a Google Docs spreadsheet if it would be helpful for people to see it mapped out:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...oQ0/edit#gid=0

There is a running count of hotbar-using abilities in the far-right column of each section (Column titled "Hotbar slots used"). I only count consolidated abilities (like Stone I-IV or Malefic I-III) once, and I do not count individual Cards from AST or Pet Abilities from SCH, though the levels at which they are acquired are listed for comparison. SCH/AST "extra" complexity is within Cards/Pets.

What I perceive as the "gaps" are surrounded by a purple double border.

I hope this is helpful or interesting to someone.

Thank you.

[OcieKo]

Snip.

Subtract 1 on AST, one of our new buttons is simply a built in remove buff macro. If you really think its fair to count something that KB&M players have been simply right clicking for... Just sad... Pretty much a controller QoL change that KB&M players may use because it might be easier than hitting the right buff on the bar for some players.
If you accommodated for this already, sorry and thank you.

[TonberiScholar]

Subtract 1 on AST, one of our new buttons is simply a built in remove buff macro. If you really think its fair to count something that KB&M players have been simply right clicking for... Just sad... Pretty much a controller QoL change that KB&M players may use because it might be easier than hitting the right buff on the bar for some players.
If you accommodated for this already, sorry and thank you.

I did, but thank you! I had something about that in my initial post but I hit the character limit and had to cut it.

Undraw is listed but not counted, if that makes sense. It's just kinda on there to show when you get it, kinda like the Fairy abilities (since some people may just use Eos/Selene on Sic).

Nocturnal Sect and Diurnal Sect are counted, but I figured it was easier to count those than count Aspected Helios/Aspected Benefic each twice (once for each of their versions). Since using Noct or Diurnal is a big decision, even though it's one you make outside of combat.

[mcspamm]

I did, but thank you! I had something about that in my initial post but I hit the character limit and had to cut it.

Undraw is listed but not counted, if that makes sense. It's just kinda on there to show when you get it, kinda like the Fairy abilities (since some people may just use Eos/Selene on Sic).

Nocturnal Sect and Diurnal Sect are counted, but I figured it was easier to count those than count Aspected Helios/Aspected Benefic each twice (once for each of their versions). Since using Noct or Diurnal is a big decision, even though it's one you make outside of combat.

Thanks for posting that spreadsheet! It's interesting seeing the new gaps they'll be introducing in a couple weeks (there seem to be a number of level ranges where you get no new abilities or traits for 3-4 levels), especially the ones where WHM falls behind compared with the other two healers (even considering fairy abilities).

Any chance you could change the colour of the rows with ability gaps and/or make the borders thicker? I'm red colourblind and struggled to notice them.

Also, a tip: you can break the 1000 character limit by editing your post afterwards. That's how I posted my massive wall of text a number of pages back.

[TonberiScholar]

Thanks for posting that spreadsheet! It's interesting seeing the new gaps they'll be introducing in a couple weeks (there seem to be a number of level ranges where you get no new abilities or traits for 3-4 levels), especially the ones where WHM falls behind compared with the other two healers (even considering fairy abilities).

Any chance you could change the colour of the rows with ability gaps and/or make the borders thicker? I'm red colourblind and struggled to notice them.

Also, a tip: you can break the 1000 character limit by editing your post afterwards. That's how I posted my massive wall of text a number of pages back.

Tried something a little different, see if it's any easier to read (went with purple and a double-line border instead).

[mcspamm]

Tried something a little different, see if it's any easier to read (went with purple and a double-line border instead).

Perfect, thanks!