Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Exiled_Tonberry]

3: Plenary Indulgence shouldn't consume confessions, instead it should extend their duration by a small amount. Otherwise, there's no way that confessions could be balanced in having an effect, and thus couldn't be fleshed out into being something actually interesting instead of a weird buff we have to watch for.

This is a great idea honestly. To add to this, make confessions be gatherable through AOE healing and have an effect. Something like increases healing on the target based the amount of them.
One of WHMs mechanics then becomes keeping these stack up on all players. Plenary now becomes something to upkeep on all targets as well as a huge AOE burst heal that you can dish out constantly.
It would be very strong and really push home the healer specialist idea IMO.

[Verdan]

This is a great idea honestly. To add to this, make confessions be gatherable through AOE healing and have an effect. Something like increases healing on the target based the amount of them.
One of WHMs mechanics then becomes keeping these stack up on all players. Plenary now becomes something to upkeep on all targets as well as a huge AOE burst heal that you can dish out constantly.
It would be very strong and really push home the healer specialist idea IMO.

We were given two mechanics and whiffed on 'em both. The good news is that they could make them cool, though.

[Duelle]

This is a great idea honestly. To add to this, make confessions be gatherable through AOE healing and have an effect. Something like increases healing on the target based the amount of them.One of WHMs mechanics then becomes keeping these stack up on all players. Plenary now becomes something to upkeep on all targets as well as a huge AOE burst heal that you can dish out constantly.
It would be very strong and really push home the healer specialist idea IMO.

Wouldn't that requiring weakening the heal so that it remains balanced? Making it not consume Confession would mean that you'd have a free technically AoE heal active whenever the cooldown expires, and it we're going that route you should probably make is supplemental to other heals.

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Since people are throwing in suggestions, I'll do so as well:

Traits

52 Secret of the Lily - Grants a 30% chance that a Lily is added to your healing gauge upon the execution of Cure, Cure II, Cure III or Medica. Lilies will increase your spell speed by 5% per lilies stacked. Lilies also empower certain abilities upon execution, at which time the lilies are removed.

---Stoneskin (see below)
---Asylum - Extends the duration of Asylum by 3s per lily upon execution.
---Assize - Increases MP restored by 3.33% per lily upon execution (10% at 3 lilies).
---Tetragrammaton - Cooldown reduced by 6/12/25% per lily upon execution.
---Divine Benison (see below)

68 Secret of the Lily II - Using Cure, Cure II, Cure III, or Medica now reduce the remaining cooldown on Asylum, Assize, and Divine Benison by 3s per use.

Abilities

34 Stoneskin - Creates a barrier around target that absorbs damage totaling to 12% of target's maximum HP. Gains an additional 2% per lily active upon execution. All lilies in your Healing Gauge are lost upon execution. Cooldown: 45s.

62 Thin Air - stays as is

64 Stone IV - stays as is

66 Divine Benison - Places a barrier around target that restores HP from the next direct attack. Cure Potency: 500. Can absorb one additional attack per lily active upon execution. All lilies in your Healing Gauge are lost upon execution. Duration: 10s. Cooldown: 60s.

68 Solace - Restores target's HP. Cure potency: 150. Cooldown: 1.5s. Additional effect: Grants target a Confession, increasing healing received by 2% for 30s. Caps at 3 stacks.

70 Plenary Indulgence - Restores HP of all nearby party members. Potency varies with current Confession stack. Upon execution, all Confession stacks are lost. Cooldown: 30s.

Notes

- Stoneskin comes back as a cooldown that becomes very powerful once the lily system is introduced.
- Divine Benison would change to be basically Earth Shield from WoW, but scaling with lilies.
- Solace has the same GCD as Mudras, so a WHM could quickly spam it to get Confession stacks on a party member. The quick cooldown should also allow its use between other heals, and the extra +healing received would be a bonus.
- Removing the RNG would probably call for nerfing some of the healing potencies, but I'm just spitballing here.

[Entilper]

I'm gonna make another suggestion, maybe something good can come out of this thread if the devs take some ideas.

Some other simple changes that I think could be done:

LV.46 Aero II and LV.58 Aero III
Change potency of both to 40 and make it a 30 seconds duration to accomodate changes to Stone III and Quake (see below).

LV.52 Secret of the Lilies
Grants a 50% chance that a Lily is added to your healing gauge upon the execution of Cure, Cure II, Cure III. Each lily increases spell-based HP restoration by 5%, totalling 15% at 3 stacks.

Why it's not overpowered:
In adition to Largesse being added to the role-actions (a direct nerf to WHM Divine Seal), AST has an innate healing bonus on their Sects (making their heals on par if not better than the new potency WHM spells) and SCH has acess to both Dissipation and Fey Illumination, that when paired together with Largesse grants a 60% increase to spell-based HP restoration.

LV.54 Stone III
Change potency to 225 to accomodate the loss of Stone IV and addition of Quake (see below).

LV.62 Thin Air
Good addition that fixes the mana management problem.

LV.64 Quake (instead of Stone IV)
150 potency AoE OGCD. 60 seconds cooldown. Applies "Earth Vulnerability Up" to targets, making them take 20% more damage from Earth-based spells. Duration: 30 seconds.

Why it's not overpowered:
With the removal of the damage on Fluid Aura, WHM lost a free 150 potency OGCD every 30 seconds. The addition of Quake would not only make the DPS rotation better but also help solidify WHM as a AoE powerhouse. The 'Earth Vulnerability Up' would make up for the lack of a fourth tier spell, maintaining Stone III as our main DPS skill.

LV.66 Divine Benison
OGCD. Consumes one lily stack to create a barrier around target that absorbs damage totaling 10% of target's maximum HP. Duration: 15 seconds. Cooldown: 5 seconds.

Why it's not overpowered:
WHMs lost Stoneskin, a spammable 10% shield, a valuable tool for some encounters even with the high MP required. By consuming only one lily and having the barrier % reduced to affect that, a WHM could easily choose between maintaining his bonus to healing from the lilies or spending them to shield party members in circustances where mitigation is better than active healing. By only consuming one stack, the WHM could shield multiple party members, but still not as proficiently as Nocturnal AST or SCH.

LV.68 Secret of the Lilies II
Reduces Assize, Tetragrammaton and Plenary Indulgence cooldown by 5 seconds everytime a lily is consumed to use Divine Benison.

Why it's not overpowered:
This would help incentivate the use of lilies for Divine Benison in exchange for cooldown reductions, preventing that players sit at 3 stacks at all times.

LV.70 Plenary Indulgence
Restores HP to all nearby party members. Potency depends on how many lilies are stacked.

No lilies: 200 potency.
One lily: 300 potency.
Two lilies: 400 potency.
Three lilies: 500 potency.

Lilies are not consumed when this ability is used.
Cooldown: 90 seconds.

Why it's not overpowered:
This is supposed to be WHM's version of Indomitability. By tying the potency to lily stacks, the players could plan their healing by consuming the lilies when this skill is on cooldown to quicken the recast timer, or keep the lilies for maximum potency.

Conclusion:
While very tentative, I think that these changes would make WHM a lot more fun and especially more engaged with the new job gauge.

By having lilies affect healing potency, WHM would have a very powerful but fluctuating toolkit at it's disposal. These changes would also make the DPS rotation more interesting, all while keeping the job as a PURE HEALER, something that SE wants them to be.