Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Urthdigger]

One of the main problems is that due to how the system is designed, you're not going to get a 20% reduction on Assize unless you play in a very specific inefficient manner. As others have stated, it will take about 38 seconds on average of doing nothing but spamming cure to hit 3 lillies. During this time, you cannot use Asylum, Tetra, or Benison. Then you finally hit 3, use them to knock a whopping 12 seconds off your recast, start cure bombing to build lillies up again, and on average you will have a mere 10 seconds, about 3-4 GCDs, to actually dps. This is most assuredly NOT using the new mechanics to give you massive amounts of MP and free time to DPS.

Alternatively, you can play like we currently do, utilizing regens most of the time to keep the tank up and only really needing to toss out a cure or cure II when a tankbuster hits or they've got everything from here to doomsday on their ass. In which case, you'll probably only see one lily, if that. So, best case scenario, you shave a whole 2 seconds off Assize's cooldown! I'm sorry, 2.4, you need the decimals when working with numbers this small. And that's assuming you literally remove Asylum and Tetra from your hotbar and never even bother putting Benison on it.

So, yeah. No matter how you look at it, the system as currently designed encourages you not to use a significant portion of your toolkit, and in return you get barely any increase at all. Even NOTHING would have been preferable, then we wouldn't have folks screaming on the forums about how spamming cure and cure II is the "proper" way to play, and that actually using the more efficient regens is playing the game wrong.

[Epo]

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As many have also stated, you don't want to revolve around playing the game towards the lily system. Thin Air and the 30 second assize reduction are already major by themselves. The lily system does not need to be played around, but it's use can still be a nice bonus. Not to mention, again that as far as we know, cure and cure II may become much more viable in Stormblood. Especially with their extra potency buff.

Now, I'm not saying we're all gonna go forget regen or medica II (because they are just way too amazing, for sure) but for all we know monsters won't attack in such a predictable manner. Attacks could become much less scripted and more algorithm based and require more reaction based healing (which is exactly what cure and cure II would be good for.) Now, of course that's just an example and there are many other ways they have possibly gone about it. Or maybe they haven't gone about it at all and then yes, some worry is warranted. But that's the thing. We don't know. We simply don't. And I personally find it incredibly hard to believe they will keep the same setup and systems that we've seen in Heavensward, after they have failed so hard.

[Urthdigger]

As many have also stated, you don't want to revolve around playing the game towards the lily system. Thin Air and the 30 second assize reduction are already major by themselves. The lily system does not need to be played around, but it's use can still be a nice bonus. Not to mention, again that as far as we know, cure and cure II may become much more viable in Stormblood. Especially with their extra potency buff.

I went over that in the second paragraph. If we don't specifically alter our playstyle to focus on gathering lilies, you're going to see one, at most, for Assize. That's almost nothing. Alternatively, if they tune fights so that we need to use our HoTs, oGCDs, AND spam cure often enough to reliably have multiple lilies, then the other two healers are kinda fucked. Also those lilies are probably not going to assize unless we specifically avoid casting our other oGCD heals, which is the other big issue I have with this system.