Thread: Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

How about instead the lilies proc off regens ticks (even at a ridiculously low %, medica II would be our primary and reliable lily gain. Lilies work like Aetherflow where 1 lily = 1 lily ability. Abilities include the shield we're getting, a flat tp refresh and a flat mp refresh. Two abilities that use all 3 lilies is a party-wide 10% shield and the 20% CD reduction. This lets us almost passively get our lilies and makes those parts of our toolkit available while we dps. The shields work for both the other healers (stacking SCH shields for tank busters and allowing SCH to also dps without worry, allowing AST to manage cards without worry) and the mp/tp refresh are good to have both for dungeons and raids, plus it compliments AST cards. The CD reduction lets us use Assize much more often, which almost on it's own solves our mp problem and frees up a cross-role slot. It also potentially leaves us without the need for swiftcast if we can even keep bad players alive so there's another slot.

Confession stacks are their own GCD with an oGCD to use them. For undergeared WHM this keeps everyone safe in dungeons, for raids it acts as that "just in case" an attack crits the tank.

Doing these mechanics this way compliments the two other healers during current savage raids and let's the WHM effectively solo heal when the next raids come out and people start farming old raids. This keeps WHM relevant for all content and still keeps that pure healer SE wanted. It also doesn't gate our potential behind rng, at least nothing as harsh as AST gets. I don't care if there's a good chance that SOMETHING procs from cure, I want to have control over what procs.

Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

Want to know why KisaiTenshi did not respond to this

Kisai doesn't respond to any valid criticisms to her arguments. Her counterpoints are as dead as the job she tries to defend.

Press F to pay respects.

Originally Posted by fantasticm

Kisai doesn't respond to any valid criticisms to her arguments. Her counterpoints are as dead as the job she tries to defend.

Press F to pay respects.

and yet I had a post on that:

Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

Well this is fitting for this thread:

also see my edit? have answer to it?

Originally Posted by Epo

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i read the whole thing, i was just saying that it has actually 0 utility. and having mitigation on 2 healers is actually incredibly good since u have to heal less and u can dps more. about that, diurnal ast still has more mitigation than whm in the form of collective unconscious and the bole.

Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

That's fine and all for the super casual healers that don't care how or what they do as a job, but I sure hope SE listens to us more than them...

You and me both. From what I've heard/translated, the JP community is equally unhappy with the state of WHM, thus greatly enhancing our chances at an overhaul. Oh My God do I pray. From this day forward until it happens.

Originally Posted by fantasticm

No one has thrown the system in the trash. It was born there.

You're already playing 4.0??!! Ohhh, do tell me, please... How are the new areas? Is swimming all it is hyped up to be? How hard do the mobs hit in the new dungeons? What about crafting and gathering? Seriously. Inquisitive minds want to know!

Well from what I can gather based on the videos that I've seen like this, the dungeons in the expansion aren't going to take advantage of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-R45pkv-Bo&t=14s (yes i know its mr happy and all that i but look at the dungeon gameplay)

AS we can see, even with 4 mobs at lvl 63, regen and asylum were able to cover it. Now granted the values aren't final but it doesn't paint a good picture for the system right now.

Originally Posted by Gemina

You're already playing 4.0??!! Ohhh, do tell me, please... How are the new areas? Is swimming all it is hyped up to be? How hard do the mobs hit in the new dungeons? What about crafting and gathering? Seriously. Inquisitive minds want to know!

The press have played it. Each and every video I've seen where someone talks about it they sounded very unenthusiastic. I am hopeful a few tweaks will be made in the coming two weeks and even if nothing changes I still look at how AST matured in HW and I hold out hope for buffs and reworks as time goes on. I do not think WHM is dead...but we re not healthy by any stretch of things.