Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[KisaiTenshi]

The web address is on the comic itself and what does it matter when it is from? Funny is still funny.

It matters because the image was linked from discord so the owner of that comic has will have no idea that their comic has been linked unless someone reaches out to them. It's a respect thing. Comic artists hate it when someone takes an image from their site and posts it somewhere else without linking back.

While you're correct that the original Comic is from Life In Aggro, this picture is an edited version from the FFXIV subreddit (The edit is changing "Final Fantasy" to "White Mage" in the 2nd to last dialogue bubble.)

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...y_of_the_dead/

All the more reason to link to the original site and where the edited image came from.

[Aramina]

It matters because the image was linked from discord so the owner of that comic has will have no idea that their comic has been linked unless someone reaches out to them. It's a respect thing. Comic artists hate it when someone takes an image from their site and posts it somewhere else without linking back.




All the more reason to link to the original site and where the edited image came from.

Maybe the ones you know, the ones I know don't care unless someone else is trying to take credit for their work. Which Ama didn't do.

[KisaiTenshi]

Maybe the ones you know, the ones I know don't care unless someone else is trying to take credit for their work. Which Ama didn't do.

I work in this industry thank you very much. Always link to the source, you may never know what the original image or context was. Most artists care very much because posting it on 4chan, reddit, imgur, facebook earns them nothing, and private systems like discord and slack don't provide a way for the artists to know where their comics are being shared.

[Nix]

I work in this industry thank you very much. Always link to the source, you may never know what the original image or context was. Most artists care very much because posting it on 4chan, reddit, imgur, facebook earns them nothing, and private systems like discord and slack don't provide a way for the artists to know where their comics are being shared.

I'd be stoked if folks posted my work (since I make cash based on commissions) as long as they didn't edit any watermarks/URLs out, but that's just me :<. I can't expect everyone to link to my site etc etc~

Maybe the ones you know, the ones I know don't care unless someone else is trying to take credit for their work. Which Ama didn't do.

Pretty much this^

[KisaiTenshi]

I'd be stoked if folks posted my work (since I make cash based on commissions) as long as they didn't edit any watermarks/URLs out, but that's just me :<. I can't expect everyone to link to my site etc etc~

It's hard enough trying to encourage artists to watermark their comics with their site. So no, sharing just the image is not fine. The artist community has to remind the media on twitter of this every time someone posts kcgreen's "this is fine" dog comic.

If people don't have it in their collective memory to link the source of things they like, then artists will keep losing out.

If you worked in the industry, then you would know of fair use practices.

It is not fair use to steal an image and host it somewhere else. That is copyright infringement.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/512

[Bourne_Endeavor]

It is not fair use to steal an image and host it somewhere else. That is copyright infringement.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/512

Stealing implies claiming credit for work you did not produce. Had Ama posted, "look at the comic I drew!" You would have a point. She did not, but merely made a parody using said work with no claim of ownership. That is fair use per the description I quoted. You really need to stop speaking about things you don't understand.

[KisaiTenshi]

Stealing implies claiming credit for work you did not produce. Had Ama posted, "look at the comic I drew!" You would have a point. She did not, but merely made a parody using said work with no claim of ownership. That is fair use per the description I quoted. You really need to stop speaking about things you don't understand.

You're the one who doesn't understand what they are talking about. I'm not arguing about the contents of the comic, I'm telling you that it is jerk-tier behavior to steal an image from a website, modified or not, and post it somewhere else and not link back to the source. One of the people I have worked with in the past sent invoices to websites who took her images.

[Nix]

It's hard enough trying to encourage artists to watermark their comics with their site. So no, sharing just the image is not fine. The artist community has to remind the media on twitter of this every time someone posts kcgreen's "this is fine" dog comic.

I tell you what, feel free to hit up sites like imgur, pinterest etc and carry on with this crusade.

Speaking as an artist - as long as folks aren't editing my watermarks/urls/claiming credit, then I say have at it.
If an artist doesn't watermark their work, that's on them.

Sharing and stealing are two totally different things.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I work in this industry thank you very much. Always link to the source, you may never know what the original image or context was. Most artists care very much because posting it on 4chan, reddit, imgur, facebook earns them nothing, and private systems like discord and slack don't provide a way for the artists to know where their comics are being shared.

If you worked in the industry, then you would know of fair use practices.

Fair use is a doctrine originating in the law of the United States that permits limited use of copyrighted material without having to first acquire permission from the copyright holder. Fair use is one of the limitations to copyright intended to balance the interests of copyright holders with the public interest in the wider distribution and use of creative works by allowing certain limited uses that might otherwise be considered infringement. Examples of fair use in United States copyright law include commentary, search engines, criticism, parody, news reporting, research, and scholarship. Fair use provides for the legal, unlicensed citation or incorporation of copyrighted material in another author's work under a four-factor test.