Consolidated White Mage 4.0 Feedback Thread

[Sarevok_Thordin]

I had a look through the abilities and well..I guess WHM goes to the pure healer side of things nicely, but I really am not keen on the RNG side of things, nor do we have any utility for the rest of the group barring a long CD rescue ability.

I can see WHM getting tweaked fast.

[Skyrior]

This thread is totally unnecessary seeing as how there are already plenty of WHM tear threads. Beg for attention much?

You're the one being hostile here for no reason. Everyone needs to be outraged about the WHM changes and we won't shut up until Yoshi P hears it.

[AlphaSonic]

I don't understand why they took away stoneskin. At least then we'd still have MORE shielding ability rather than less with this upcoming patch. One that's clunky but always available(and unique now), and one that's fast but on a cooldown.

It's not fast, if you don't have at least 1 lily you can't use it. Check on the videos how it is greyout when WHM has 0 lilies

[Yorumi]

Unfortunately SE decided to double down on "moar healz!"

Even that is debatable. AST's benefic I/II are now more potent than cure I/II. And now AST has their new mega heal bomb 900 potency. The can draw and hold lady for another extra heal. If whm still holds the highest HPS throughput it's not by much anymore.

[Skyrior]

and whats the recast time on that spells? :P

Even if you ignore Collective Unconscious, Asphelios and helios are stronger than medica ii and medica.

[NorthernLadMSP]

You're the one being hostile here for no reason. Everyone needs to be outraged about the WHM changes and we won't shut up until Yoshi P hears it.

Hostile. No. Annoyed by 20 different threads, absolutely.

[MomomiMomi]

Don't get me wrong, I thought your post was funny and maybe accurate. I want to see what people have to say about the WHM changes. But that would be better and easier if it was just posted in an existing WHM thread, and would make it easier to read all the other things non-WHM.

But yeah, do whatever you want. I can't stop you.

[Semirhage]

How's the recast on it

60s. Assize is 90.

[Sebazy]

To clarify on Plenary Indulgence, the way I see it:

It's a self cast ability, not targetable thus the 0 range, think assize/indom or such but with a significantly larger radius (30 yards).

I'm pretty confident that 0 confession stacks = 0 healing. If that wasn't the case I suspect the CD would be a lot longer than 15 seconds.

It isn't intended to be another aoe heal, rather the radius is there to allow it to be used on multiple targets, e.g. in FaustZ, you'll likely be casting a fair amount of cures across both tanks, in this situation you'll likely be able to use Plenary almost on cooldown either to play it safe or buy yourself a few more DPS GCDs.

In a single tank situation, it's simply going to be a tank specific instant free heal on a short cooldown assuming the incoming damage is sufficient to actually proc it. In high sustained phases of tank healing it'll practically be a resource free lustrate on a 15 second CD (rng allowing), in periods where the tank isn't taking much damage it's likely to see little use, Cure2+Tetra will still be the go to burst for dungeons and such.

As someone that has healed in many MMOs, and played WHM since ARR, I can say that these changes are hurting much more than what you think they are. Go play the class. Maybe then you'll get it.

And yet I've played Conj since 1.0's closed beta, WHM since 2.0's closed Beta and my healing experience in mmos goes back approaching 20 years (Probably not far off that if you consider Anatomy in UO as healing ). I'm genuinely looking forward to these changes as I really do hope we actually get some raid content that warrants this kind of HPS potential.

The last point is a big piece of the puzzle though =(

60s. Assize is 90.

Assize is now 60 seconds (And reducible with crits and the lilly mechanic)

Roll on Omega, I can't wait <3

[Lunaxia]

Hostile. No. Annoyed by 20 different threads, absolutely.

I see you deleted your previous comment to make yourself look better, lol.

All you're doing is being unnecessarily rude and continually bumping my thread.