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    Player
    Lunaxia's Avatar
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    Pomelo Melo
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    Thaumaturge Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Yallaid View Post
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    AST is now the new HoTs job.
    And the new buffer job.
    And the new mega heals job.

    WHMs... have a cane with butterflies on it?
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yallaid View Post
    i don't know what WHM out there were casting mostly Cure I and Cure II but the changes they've announced so far seem to cement that as a WHM main job: cast Cure I and Cure II on as many targets as possible as often as possible to proc Lillies and Confession.

    The problem: wasn't WHM the Heals over Time job? So Medica II, Regen, Asylum don't interact with the new systems at all. I know personally, my healing style is to stack HoTs on a target and heal whatever needs to be made up with Cure I and II. Now it'll be flipped, I'll want to reduce how much I rely on HoTs so that I can get as many stacks as possible? It just doesn't feel like it's working how it's supposed to.

    I think WHM dps is fine, Holy is still there and we have new MP management. But what the heck happened to our healing??
    Clearly Yoshi-P made these changes because Healers were not playing Healers, they were playing DPS.
    The way the changes are made are the way you are supposed to play WHM in the first place.
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    SlogDog's Avatar
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    Slig Sansoucie
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Clearly Yoshi-P made these changes because Healers were not playing Healers, they were playing DPS.
    The way the changes are made are the way you are supposed to play WHM in the first place.
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    Kethic Zachrias
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Yeah, I agree that SCH is looking like the perfect healer in SB, and AST has one of the only remaining strong utilities. I guess that's why WHM is getting general purpose abilities that apply to both healing and personal dps?
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
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    Moogle
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Honestly, i just checked all the skills.
    If Scholar didn't have Chain Stratagem (new battle lithany), he would not be able to guarentee his place.
    Whm healing is just monstrous and could be the main heal (and could solo heal) easily for each content.
    Don't underestimate him.
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    Skiros Drakon
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ceasaria View Post
    Honestly, i just checked all the skills.
    If Scholar didn't have Chain Stratagem (new battle lithany), he would not be able to guarentee his place.
    Whm healing is just monstrous and could be the main heal (and could solo heal) easily for each content.
    Don't underestimate him.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    WHM is the best at main healing though and has the most potent cure spells.
    Except that Dirunal AST has higher healer potencies in Stormblood, and can instant-cast Asphelios and Helios, and have a powerful Collective Unconscious that is three times more powerful than Medica II when CelOpp'd.
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    Khalindra Nela
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Skyrior View Post
    Except that Dirunal AST has higher healer potencies in Stormblood, and can instant-cast Asphelios and Helios, and have a powerful Collective Unconscious that is three times more powerful than Medica II when CelOpp'd.
    and whats the recast time on that spells? :P
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    Miles Maelstrom
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    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 80
    AST is going to be a beast, I think I heard they also have 300% shields coming too. Should be better than scholars shields.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_Maelstrom View Post
    AST is going to be a beast, I think I heard they also have 300% shields coming too. Should be better than scholars shields.


    Also of note:
    Cure potency of AB was increased
    Both AST stances now increase potencies by 15%
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    Yal Aid
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 70
    please turn your attention from the meta of raid balancing and pay attention to how the fundamental play style of WHM seems to have changed drastically. Why am I disincentivized to use Regen, Medica II or Asylum. They would only take away from potential Cure I and Cure II casts which costs me Lillies AND Confession stacks.
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