As a healer, is it my job to DPS? A new perspective.

[Lunafreya]

It really seems that all this thread has become is circles and circles. One person says this and one person says no that didn't happen and keeps defending a point ad nausea.

[Feyona]

It really seems that all this thread has become is circles and circles. One person says this and one person says no that didn't happen and keeps defending a point ad nausea.

Your right some of us just wanted to tallk about healer dps but some want to talk about me for some reason but yeah your rignt no point any more I mean we had two pages of really non sensical ramblings from someone here cos she took what I said the wrong way once in this thread so those 2 pages wernt from me anyway. Then you get the ' waste of space' giffs that also have nothing to do with healer dps.

[AmeliaVerves]

That anyone burdens other people? [...] No just stated the truth that amelia kicked someone

Jup. You said I put burden on people, while I actually removed it by releasing him from the group and taking away the 'burden' of keeping up with our level of skill.

If you really have a diploma in psychology how can you not see that calling people out for a thing without taking the circumstances into consideration is like calling them a bad person?
You keep referring to me as if I am the pure evil, because I removed someone from my party, while I have all rights to choose with who I want to play.
It's actually funny. I was not nice and not charming, but you don't become a bad person for being not nice. That just makes me a person, you know?

Because I keep wondering: How would you have handled the situation? 7 partymembers playing on a very high level of skill, performing perfectly fine, but with 80% overheal in a farm party.

[Feyona]

Jup. You said I put burden on people, while I actually removed it by releasing him from the group and taking away the 'burden' of keeping up with our level of skill.


Because I keep wondering: How would you have handled the situation? 7 partymembers playing on a very high level of skill, performing perfectly fine, but with 80% overheal in a farm party.

To be honest amelia. I never said you were a burden. I wouldnt have kicked him sorry even if he was doing nothing and wanted a carry but I am not against you personally or thinking you are a bad person. It was just a statement of fact and have nothing against you keep saying that merely because i didnt want you to feel bad about it but people asked me for evidence people are kicked for not dpsing whatever the reason. Also kind of felt coerced to give evidence in a way anyway being as I was asked for it. Im the one that was called a burden but ive never once called anyone else one in game or out

[Lambdafish]

but people asked me for evidence people are kicked for not dpsing whatever the reason.

no, people asked for evidence of people unfairly kicking people for not dpsing (that was your entire point wasn't it?). Amelia didn't kick them "because they weren't dpsing", they got kicked because they were being lazy, unhelpful and detrimental to the party, and expecting a carry is rude and disrespectful to the other 7 people in the party.

[AmeliaVerves]

Actually, I am not even mad, rather amazed by how bad your reading skills seem to be. I will show you, just for the sake of it.

That anyone burdens other people? [...] truth that amelia kicked someone or pointed out elitist words

Jup. You said I put burden on people [...]

To be honest amelia thats whats known as a parataxic distortion. Because I never said you were a burden.

I don't know how good your english is, but there is a huge difference between putting burden and being a burden. Please decide which one you are talking about and stay with one direction.
At first you asked where you said anyone puts burden on others (to burden someone = to put burden on someone) so I answered you accused me for putting burden on others.
Then you state you never said I am a burden.
Ok, that's right, you never did, because I was not, but what does that have to do with the context?
No idea what you are trying to tell me about the parataxic distortion, because it is totally not. I didn't expect my co-heal to be server 1st on clears, I wanted him to try improving, no matter what the result would have been. He just straight away refused to. If you mean I am reflecting this distortion onto you, I don't really see where I did that, so please explain to me, because I want to know on what you based your thesis.

I wouldnt have kicked him sorry even if he was doing nothing and wanted a carry

Fair enough, you don't need to apologize for anything at all, but please realise it is kind of unfair for you to 'call me out' for wanting a team where each member contributes the same will to put effort. In fact we didn't expected him to have purple numbers on fflogs, but we wanted him to try.
In fact you always say how respectful and understanding you are, but it is not respectful at all to point at someones behaviour you do not support or understand.
Even if it is valid or not, this is something I would consider slightly rude. :/

I think it is nice of you to support other players and to help them clear content. It's a nice thing you do for the community, but you should not put that burden on others to live up to that as well. All of us are different and I am just not as patient as you, as it seems, therefore I wont do the same, please respect that.

disrespectful to the other 7 people

This is exactly what all of us felt, because I asked him politely to try contributing DPS and that he can just start off with putting DoTs.
If he would have been able to contribute not more than 200dps (which is basically DoTs here and there all over the fight) it would have been perfectly fine, because he would have shown the will to play as part of the team.

[Feyona]

no, people asked for evidence of people unfairly kicking people for not dpsing (that was your entire point wasn't it?). Amelia didn't kick them "because they weren't dpsing", they got kicked because they were being lazy, unhelpful and detrimental to the party, and expecting a carry is rude and disrespectful to the other 7 people in the party.

No you dint you said no one is kicked for not dpsing as healer

[Sebazy]

Feyona, please stop being hyper defensive.

People aren't ganging up on you because of some sheep mentality, it's because you spew idiotic drivel, then when people call you out on it, you spew barbs and promptly cry foul when people fire back.

There isn't even any kind of valid debate left in this thread since you keep stomping it out with your immature little routine. I genuinely can't work out if you are a bit dim or just a troll. It's a proper head scratcher at this stage.

Thanks.

[Feyona]

Then you state you never said I am a burden.
Ok, that's right, you never did, because I was not, but what does that have to do with the context?


I think it is nice of you to support other players and to help them clear content. It's a nice thing you do for the community, but you should not put that burden on others to live up to that as well. All of us are different and I am just not as patient as you, as it seems, therefore I wont do the same, please respect that.

I do respect that and said so. The way I put it maybe confused but it was saying that I havent called anyone a burden in the context that I was saying it was reflecting about what people have called me . Its very awkward on here with a controlker to precisely put things across the right way. It doesnt matter about it was innappropriate

[Lambdafish]

No you dint you said no one is kicked for not dpsing as healer

And as I stated, because english is a wonderful language and you should read it some time, that the intention of Amelias kick was not "because they weren't DPSing", rather their detriment and disrespect to the party. My assumption behind your point is that you are disregarding this fact, and are trying to defend hard working players who are kicked unfairly, am I wrong? If I'm not then it is highly apparent, even if not said, that when we ask for evidence of your point, we are asking for evidence of it happening unfairly, otherwise you are defending a poor class of play and that is very damaging to the game.

The fact that I have to explain this is tiring ok? We may come across as patronising but that is because every little thing has to be explained to you, you don't pick up on subtext and fuel every post with your own narrative, and still think you have the higher ground even though you have still yet to back up your opinion with any kind of meaningful.... well anything really at this point