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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Miste View Post
    It's moot anyway since there is a simple way to get both Protect and Cleric Stance at the same time, it is just a placebo though for players who don't understand what I explained above in the example that Protect doesn't actually make any increase in efficiency (sub level 20) while Cleric Stance does no matter how small it might be. So I am still inclined to do it the more efficient way to see how much time can be saved because why would I purposefully gimp my play style to something less efficient?
    OK, obviously Cleric Stance increases healer DPS, but describing a passive Physical and magical defence buff that's approximately a 10% buff is hardly a placebo.

    Essentially it's a 30 minute long free defensive buff how is that a placebo?

    Personally on my PLD, I'll be slotting Protect and StoneSkin in the same slot and using a macro to switch them out so I have SS during action and can cast Protect if the healer can/does not do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saito_S View Post
    Which was my original point: I overstated the benefits of having Cleric's Stance on in those dungeons in a previous post, I'll admit, because my main reason to post was this absurd notion that some people were putting out that if you don't cast Protect in the starter dungeons, then you're a lousy healer and/or are lazy and/or are putting your party at risk for selfish reasons, etc.

    It's nonsense.
    From purely numerical point of view, yes I suppose. but the low level dungeons (talking sub-50) are the tutorial content in the game. Yoshi has said as much several times now. So you're supposed to be learning your job/role there.

    Protect is but one tool among those that healers can use to protect the group. How you choose to roll is your business, but others may want/expect a healer to cast a proactive defensive buff before moving. I see no issue with that at all - especially given the macro that Miste posted. I'm by no means saying healers shouldn't use cleric stance or contribute, but I have to admit I really dislike the tendency among some veteran players to completely dismiss certain skills and content because they have moved 'beyond' that stage.
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 02-17-2017 at 08:12 AM.