Kicked from DR Leveling because I don't slot Protect for low level dungeons?

[Masekase_Hurricane]

all i can say is 1 cast last 30 minutes(long as theres no deaths or wipes, which mostly and especially on a healer, is on you) I know it hardly does anything and you can math this all day, but 30s to cast a 30 minute buff, is hardly anything to complain about. Tank stops and goes "protect?" then healer types an essay for 10 minutes in party chat why they shouldnt have to because it doesnt do anything anyway. Healer gets kicked. Time wasted trying to reason with them. Just swap it. it takes less cd time than to type why you dont need to.

One person asked me and I typed clerics whilst auto running. That was the end of the discussion no moaning, no winging nothing. Had it been something that I was asked often, then I would create a macro and still be pressing it whilst auto running. Stop over reacting and to be honest I and many other higher levels would gladly accept a kick from Sastasha.

It really would be no loss to me and I hope they get a healer that actually gives them Protect, although as it shows in this thread the vast majority slot clerics so good luck to them.I personally aint gonna prat about swapping skills in and out on a basic dungeon. Regardless of how long or short the penalty actually is.

Plus thank you for doing the research on the figures, but what about when a pull goes bad and the tank doesn't have all the hate. It'd sure be nice if those other players had something mitigating their damage.

Are you playing the same game as me? When does a pull go wrong in Sastasha?

[Neophyte]

One person asked me and I typed clerics whilst auto running. That was the end of the discussion no moaning, no winging nothing. Had it been something that I was asked often, then I would create a macro and still be pressing it whilst auto running. Stop over reacting and to be honest I and many other higher levels would gladly accept a kick from Sastasha.

Are you playing the same game as me? When does a pull go wrong in Sastasha?

This. All I'm hoping for is that after kicking me they get at least 2-3 other healers which refuse to switch protect in, so they may finally learn that they are wrong.

Funny Thing is, if they actually tried, they'd notice (while waiting for replacement) that you don't need a healer at all for those dungeons (especially if you carry max pots [~100 gil/piece] which gives every class a 1:07m (buffed) Equilibrium [~30% HP, capped at 2400, which is more than 30% of your HP up to until level 55(?), i.e. 8000 HP] ).
But well, I know those players, they won't move an inch, because waiting 5 mins and doing nothing is better than killing a few things in that time.

AS said, just kick me, I prefer higher dungeons like Dzemael or Aurum Vale (or even some of the HW leveling dungeons) much more anyway (or just get a 2 min primal fight, that's fine, too). In Aurum Vale i got holy at least.

But it's sad how totally uninformed and often also underperforming players try to entrench absolutly not sophisticated tactics, because of "reasons". If you don't get it, just stay silent and just get through the baby dungeon you're in. If you have an dpsing healer in Sastasha there is a 99% chance that this person neither need nor want your "advice", because (most of the times) it's some non-sense BS anyway.

[Azper]

If you have an dpsing healer in Sastasha there is a 99% chance that this person neither need nor want your "advice", because (most of the times) it's some non-sense BS anyway.

And most of the time we're out dpsing the actual dps anyway. >.>

[TaranTatsuuchi]

The other players, with lower defense, benefiting even less from Protect?
Besides, how bad can a pull really go in the first dungeons? Rhetorical. It's a bit silly to think there's some fine line where "Protect definitely could've prevented that wipe." Especially when, anecdotally, I've seen (and heard) runs where DPS don't even bother watching aggro, because everything burns fast enough that there's never any real danger.

I healed a copperbell mines once as ast...

Had a warrior tank.
After the first elevator, they grabbed the first group, proceeded to the second...
And then kept going.

At this point I thought, well, I'm not going to get to dps this pull and turned cleric stance off.

He kept going and going grabbing all the stuff all the way up to the first boss room.
While he was running I thought to myself...
I hope he pops a defensive cooldown when he stops...


We successfully did that entire pull without any deaths.
And without protect, since I had cleric as my first cross class skill.