How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Estelle9lives]

I have a few questions..

1) Take Fracture off of your hotbar. Otherwise your opener is okay.

2) There is a myriad reasons to NOT use Fracture on DRG. It was bad at level 50 - it is terrible at level 60. Between those reasons is the massive TP cost and the fact DRG's rotation is tight as it is - tossing fracture inbetween WILL mess up your BOTD timing and general ogcd/cooldown management.

3) I generally AOE only if there's 4 mobs. 3 or less it's still a gain if you can spam Doom Spike, but I don't normally do it because that's when pulls are ending and it's good to save some TP. Rule of thumb: Never weave enough ogcds that it makes your GCD hang. For AOE, I do BL > H > IR+B4B > RoT > DfD > DS > Botd + PowerS > DS > Jump > DS > Geirs > DS till sub 500 TP while weaving the other ogcds, then more DS till sub 500 TP again.

Reason I do this is to take advantage of the botd to get a super buffed jump in the main mob I'm targetting - you're only going to get 1 GSK on that botd regardless, so it's not a loss unless mobs start dying before you use it, which usually doesn't happen. Don't spam RoT, it's terrible. It's a straight 60 potency loss per mob you'd hit with a Doom Spike. Line yourself up to the mob pack, aim at the farthest possible targest and go to town on Doom Spike.

[xJimmehx]

aim at the farthest possible targest and go to town on Doom Spike.

First, Thank you very much for your time and advice.
Why the furthest target? Does doomspike stop when it reaches the intended target or something?
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What about changing the order of my rotation? Is it a dps loss to use oGCDs like [Internal Realese] asap instead of waiting for them in the rotations order?

[Spayd]

First, Thank you very much for your time and advice.
Why the furthest target? Does doomspike stop when it reaches the intended target or something?
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What about changing the order of my rotation? Is it a dps loss to use oGCDs like [Internal Realese] asap instead of waiting for them in the rotations order?

aiming at the furthest allows you to make sure you get everything in between you and the mob. Doom spike requires positioning to make the most of it, if you happen to target the mob right beside you, your character will just aim at it and chances are that youre going to miss a couple mobs. so when using doom spike, you want to target the furthest, and make sure theres as many mobs in between you and it.

Using ogcd on cooldown is usually the best way to go, unless you know they aren't going to apply on your dots, like, if you use IR a GCD too soon that it doesnt buff chaos thrust or some stuff, but if you play it well, usually it shouldnt happen. Also, reality being what it is, its up to you to know when to use certain oGCD depending on the fight. if you're using BFB and the boss jumps right after, its a huge waste and dps loss. But on a dummy fight with no downtime, using stuff on CD is the way to go.

It can also happen that multiple stuff becomes available at the same time, what I do is I use the biggest cooldown in priority, unless it can buff the damage of the next ogcd (IR, BL, BFB). I'm talking more about jumps and legsweep. Not too sure if thats the way to handle it, that's just how I do it tho so dont quote me on this pl0x.

[xJimmehx]

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Ok thank you very much.

[SunnyHirose]

It can also happen that multiple stuff becomes available at the same time, what I do is I use the biggest cooldown in priority, unless it can buff the damage of the next ogcd (IR, BL, BFB). I'm talking more about jumps and legsweep. Not too sure if thats the way to handle it, that's just how I do it tho so dont quote me on this pl0x.

This is fine! Most things that are priority are that way simply because their cooldown is shorter. There are exceptions, but it's usually fight-specific knowledge, using your dives for something besides single-target melee damage (which... is usually fight-specific knowledge), or the boss being almost dead so maybe you don't get to use everything.

In most cases, the cooldown conflict is largely avoided because the first uses were staggered, but life ain't perfect.

[Sentinillia]

1) Take Fracture off of your hotbar. Otherwise your opener is okay.

Fracture has uses this tier, namely in a11 and a12. You can fracture Cruise Chaser during the numbered Limit Cuts and get free DPS. Fracture can also be used on Alexander during second Temporal Stasis and Inceptions in some situations. Certainly more useful than Mantra.

[CookieMonsta]

Fracture has uses this tier, namely in a11 and a12. You can fracture Cruise Chaser during the numbered Limit Cuts and get free DPS. Fracture can also be used on Alexander during second Temporal Stasis and Inceptions in some situations. Certainly more useful than Mantra.

Wait, cruise chaser takes damage during numbered Limit Cut? I thought he was invuln.

[SunnyHirose]

It is invulnerable, although it's the kind where you can get Heavy Thrust up instead of the pure no-sell kind.

Fracture is not part of the Alex-raiding toolkit. Our filler combo is better than it, even without Disembowel or BotD.

[Sentinillia]

It is invulnerable, although it's the kind where you can get Heavy Thrust up instead of the pure no-sell kind.

Fracture is not part of the Alex-raiding toolkit. Our filler combo is better than it, even without Disembowel or BotD.

This is incorrect. I don't know why they've decided to code his invulnerability differently from the usual but DoTs that are applied during Limit Cut invulnerability start ticking as they would normally after the invuln wears off.
Example.
I don't see how free damage that doesn't invade our combo can ever be a bad thing, it's not a lot but DPS is DPS.

[CookieMonsta]

This is incorrect. I don't know why they've decided to code his invulnerability differently from the usual but DoTs that are applied during Limit Cut invulnerability start ticking as they would normally after the invuln wears off.
Example.
I don't see how free damage that doesn't invade our combo can ever be a bad thing, it's not a lot but DPS is DPS.

Thats a fascinating idea, imma try to test it out.