How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[aleph_null]

BiS with relic uses accu/crit, not crit/det. http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/Y9ET

Oh and I forgot to move few points of crit to sks to reach 625 (2.39 gcd), otherwise you end up with 20+ useless sks. When the relic reaches i275 you can move 3 points of accu into crit though.

[Wegente]

Oh and I forgot to move few points of crit to sks to reach 625 (2.39 gcd), otherwise you end up with 20+ useless sks.

Quick question since I'm planning to slowly make my relic as well, does that mean that having any more than 625 sks is completely useless if my GCD is 2.39s already?

[aleph_null]

Quick question since I'm planning to slowly make my relic as well, does that mean that having any more than 625 sks is completely useless if my GCD is 2.39s already?

Some people believe sks reduces gcd in tiers (599 = 2.40, 625 = 2.39), while others believe that every point of sks counts, just the UI won't show the decimals past the hundredths. If the former is true then yes any sks past 625 is wasted until you reach the 2.38 tier (which is 651 iirc).

[Krindor]

Some people believe sks reduces gcd in tiers (599 = 2.40, 625 = 2.39), while others believe that every point of sks counts, just the UI won't show the decimals past the hundredths. If the former is true then yes any sks past 625 is wasted until you reach the 2.38 tier (which is 651 iirc).

There's no belief in this theory it's been tested and proven by both me and Dervy that it's tiered.

[SunnyHirose]

Correct. I don't think of it as something SE intended, what stats would be best for us, or what you should be doing in general. This is a "corner case" of design decisions made years ago with very few amendments, is only achievable with end-of-expansion gear, it becomes mere trivia once they release the final anima step, then becomes even more irrelevant in a few months when Stormblood drops.

So if the current 270 relic with acc/crit is only 3 dps higher than the alex spear, how big will the dps gain be once it reaches 275?

Ballpark 35 DPS (-> ~2669), a 1.3% gain over 270 relic BiS. I left crit alone for that estimate; that should bump it a little more.

It should be interesting to see what, if anything, SE does about this scaling. Obviously they don't want to explode the numbers in a fit of exponential madness, but a difference like that is hardly noticeable.

[Claymore022]

So do drgs think about Trick Attack at all? I'm still getting the rotation down so i don't really pay attention to how my CDs align with how it's used through out a fight. But i know on monk i'd think about it a lot. Do any drgs plan some of their CDs around it/ ever hold anything for it?

[mosaicex]

So do drgs think about Trick Attack at all? I'm still getting the rotation down so i don't really pay attention to how my CDs align with how it's used through out a fight. But i know on monk i'd think about it a lot. Do any drgs plan some of their CDs around it/ ever hold anything for it?

NIN should be the one planning TA around the party, not the other way around (syncing it around B4B cooldown is a good start since they are all shared with most DPS). Especially for DRG, since it's an immense DPS loss holding out our oGCDs.

[Sentinillia]

So do drgs think about Trick Attack at all? I'm still getting the rotation down so i don't really pay attention to how my CDs align with how it's used through out a fight. But i know on monk i'd think about it a lot. Do any drgs plan some of their CDs around it/ ever hold anything for it?

The best you can do is communicate with your NIN about Battle Litany and Trick Attack cooldowns. You can usually land them both in the same window without losing an usage of either. Obviously you can also hold Geirskogul for a time if you know Trick Attack is on it's way in the next 10 seconds or so. Sometimes I like to hold OGCds for Trick Attack but this is a very case by case basis since losing even a single use is a DPS loss overall.

One example would be the little phase between the first Limit Cut and ATM (ship phase) on a11s to skip Lapis. The timeframe is small enough for you to not lose an usage and the long downtime right after ensures that everything will be up anyways once you land. This of course is highly dependent on your whole team's DPS output.

[SunnyHirose]

The main gripe for DRG and TA is Chaos Thrust. Since we're jamming as much as we can into our BfB+IR+Potion window there isn't really much wiggle room even if the NIN does something not to our liking. Typically we get dat Jump nuke so that's nice.

[Aquaslash]

I have tried and tried and tried some more, and I have never been able to skip lapis. Closest I've been is 62%. For the drg player, do you basically use your standard opener and then save ogcds at optical sights to have another opener ready after limit cut? Or do you just need to go ham the whole time?

Also, any tips for a good opener on Scathach? I'd like to not take a vuln stack, but I'd also like to not lose a buffed GK or botd in general