How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[Lewikun]

oh i forgot to change the melds lul.

okay thanks

[Krindor]

Weights from Dervy: https://dervyxiv.wordpress.com/stat-weights/


WD: 14.956
STR: 1.000
DET: 0.207
CRT: 0.279
SS: 0.170

[Kaiyoko]

Based on the new stat weights, I believe I've come up with a new BiS that utilizes a crafted ring with penta Vs..
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/WVS1

Anyone able to come up with something else?

Edit: Nvm someone on reddit came up with this being better http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/VZ8I

[Kaiyoko]

Compared your last set with the one previously linked and the one previously seems to still have better stat weights than yours, if you can trust the "show weights" option to show accurate values that is.
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/WCFC

I'm getting 3447.271 w/ Au Ra - Xaela on the one you linked (http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/WCFC).

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/VZ8I is 3448.623

Did you see something different?

[Aquaslash]

New relic step is 260, as predicted by many. Might actually beat out the unupgraded shire weapon for progression, depending on how the stats scale

[Aquaslash]

New relic step is 260, as predicted by many. Might actually beat out the unupgraded shire weapon for progression, depending on how the stats scale

As an update, my trident was at 120 crit, 114 det and 6 ss. It has now scaled to 133 crit, 124 det and 6 ss. Weapon damage, Str and vit are the same as unupgraded shire, but the auto attack is higher (at least for me it is)

[Shamox]

Got cleared up.


(if someone like Krindor could enlighten me:
I would said having more STR is better anyway since it up your "attack" while secondary stats doesn't. Like I guess it add up in the calcul of your damage before other secondary stats, is that the way it works or not?)

[Krindor]

SS cap is something like 599 if I'm not wrong so yeah, having more is useless while having a little less is tolerable.

The next tier after 599 is 625 so having both 592 and 624 are a large amount of wasted stats, 20 and 25. In these cases it's almost better to meld an additional skillspeed materia, the weight of using a grade 5 materia to hit a tier is 26.41/12*0.17 = 0.37 which is lot higher than the weight of crit.

(if someone like Krindor could enlighten me:
I would said having more STR is better anyway since it up your "attack" while secondary stats doesn't. Like I guess it add up in the calcul of your damage before other secondary stats, is that the way it works or not?)

I'm not entirely sure if I understand your question, but correct me if I'm wrong, you're asking if at an equal trade of in weight STR is superior to secondary stats? If that is the question the answer is actually no. I do understand what you're thinking and my initial thought was the same. But a while back me and Dervy tested this and it prooved me wrong. Both Crit and Det gives a better increase at an equal trade off, especially crit due to its quadratic function. So if you have the choice of getting 1/0.279 crit or 1 STR always go with the crit.

EDIT: Actually looking back at the tests we did, Det actually gives less after 800 points. But stacking an equal amount of crit is never going to be worth less within possible limits(Starts to fall off at 3k crit).

[Shamox]

The next tier after 599 is 625 so having both 592 and 624 are a large amount of wasted stats, 20 and 25. In these cases it's almost better to meld an additional skillspeed materia, the weight of using a grade 5 materia to hit a tier is 26.41/12*0.17 = 0.37 which is lot higher than the weight of crit.

I was gonna put a SS V anyway since I really prefer playing with my 600SS tier so I can play more risky on Botd, if it ends up being better than crit in terme of stats then it's really nice.

I'm not entirely sure if I understand your question, but correct me if I'm wrong, you're asking if at an equal trade of in weight STR is superior to secondary stats? If that is the question the answer is actually no. I do understand what you're thinking and my initial thought was the same. But a while back me and Dervy tested this and it prooved me wrong. Both Crit and Det gives a better increase at an equal trade off, especially crit due to its quadratic function. So if you have the choice of getting 1/0.279 crit or 1 STR always go with the crit.

Yup that's what I wanted to know.
Thank you for clearing that up.

[SunnyHirose]

But it sims at +0.4 DPS ;P