How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[SunnyHirose]

This is incorrect. I don't know why they've decided to code his invulnerability differently from the usual but DoTs that are applied during Limit Cut invulnerability start ticking as they would normally after the invuln wears off.
Example.
I don't see how free damage that doesn't invade our combo can ever be a bad thing, it's not a lot but DPS is DPS.

Now hold on, I'm not sure where I lost the message, but I didn't say Cruise Chaser doesn't take on effects!

Anyhow, that damage is NOT free, citizen. It's about what opportunities you sacrifice... specifically, the chance to advance the regular rotation sooner. In the general case, that is better than 80ish potency from Fracture.

That said, I suppose I do not have a counterargument for that particular run because I avoid dealing in gamble-crafting or run-specific knowledge. Advancing the rotation a GCD sooner would have been a net loss (albeit a small one). More importantly, though, the person who can productively use all four hits in that phase is supposed to outdamage someone who can only productively use one or two. When you get to such NP quantum script-boggling dynamics, then yeah I suppose you are looking at a different toolkit. It ain't what I call raiding though, that is officially next-level, and yes you may put that on your resume if you like.

[Krindor]

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I might just be misunderstanding, but it's possible to pull Fracture > HT > ID > Dis resulting in a prepped CT + 2-3 fracture ticks at close to 100% of the time. So the only thing sacrificed would be either 5% mantra of blood bath, if that is worth 40-60 potency or not per fight, I don't know.

[saobuks]

What's more important during limit cut is using botd while invuln. If group dps is high, you'll push the boss below 63% before left/right sword, and if you used botd after numbers, botd will not be up after ATM.

[Sentinillia]

I don't necessarily advocate the use of Fracture, I'm simply clearing the misconception that it has no place in our kit. Wether you feel like you want that possible minute gain over Mantra or not is up to you. It can still be considered a viable option when you only have a single gcd to spare and can't get further into a combo. Still beats Impulse Drive and True Thrust.

[SunnyHirose]

I'd still contend that if you win a single healer GCD by taking Mantra it'd be better (e.g. one Broil, where I can do 1800 damage in questionable gear). It is difficult to use, of course; your healers have to think a step ahead, so you'd be having to think two steps ahead, plus 5% is really hard to notice (people who worked on That Other Game many years ago once determined that people need about 1/8 more performance to really notice differences), but if you really root out where the heals can benefit from a boost, you can probably find a gain just as esoteric but with more damage.

Anyway, as of 3.5 we don't lose that last-second 4th hit apparently. PRAISE THE SUN

[saobuks]

With 2.39 gcd or fey wind, you shouldn't lose the 4th hit before 1st stasis.

[Coldbrand]

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/YAGQ Going off the 699/625 figures I came up with this by modifying another BiS I saw. I'm thinking you just tune up the crit/det once the weapon receives its final buff. Would this be as min/maxed as possible or no?

[saobuks]

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/YAGQ Going off the 699/625 figures I came up with this by modifying another BiS I saw. I'm thinking you just tune up the crit/det once the weapon receives its final buff. Would this be as min/maxed as possible or no?

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/YAK6 is theoretically better (+145 crit and -140 det).

[Coldbrand]

Cool, thanks. Will be fun seeing how well that performs once the weapon is finished.

[Kicero]

I've noticed that with this patch's dragoon change, it is possible to do a 4th geirskogul in 1 BOTD. Problem is, you delay your BOTD refresh by about 10 seconds, so it is about 4 geirskoguls per 70 seconds. Another thing I've noticed is that you can't do 2 geirskoguls + B4B if you did 4 geirskoguls per 70 seconds. Is it worth doing 4 geirskoguls? You only have about 1 second to do a 4th attack, and that's if you are always attacking the boss. I did this small test with 2.39 GCD, or 634 skillspeed.