How to Dragoon per Second: A DPS Paradigm

[SunnyHirose]

The total secondary stats offered on raid gear increased more slowly than primary stats throughout the expansion (both roughly linear, though). Most of those numbers don't mean much to a layman, and a more interested player would still only really care about being in the right ballpark... so the net effect is that there is a serious chance of worse itemization with a new tier, and you'll even notice it, too. Not sure if want....

I was paying quite a lot of attention to it, especially because I LB I have nothing to do for 2-3 seconds. From what I noted, it's 2 points per add per second(Not completely sure about the time) if a person is not engaged and 1 if someone is engaged. When I LB I don't engage with the add and it ticks for 5 instead of 4. But need a bit more testing, could go through my streams and look more into it as I'm quite interested in exactly how much time you have in there.

Looking through my video, it ticks every 2 seconds meaning that completely unengaged it would take 2*100/2*4 seconds. Or 25 seconds to wipe. All engaged is double of that, so 50 seconds.

That sounds more right. The lesson here is don't do translations for your group at 3AM, then copy it way later without finding the original link, I guess.

[Krindor]

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Actually, I shouldn't be checking this stuff at 2 am as well, you were actually correct. Looking over it again, with 2 adds without a target(I LB healer then kill dps add) It was ticking for 4-5 every seconds. But after the first add was killed with LB, before engaging the second add it was still ticking for 4-5. After engaging the 2nd add the ticking went down to 1-2 per second. It was still 1-2 per second when there was only one add alive as well. I need a bit more data to reach a final conclusion but with the current data I believe the amount of adds alive have no relation to the gague increased per second and the only thing that matters is if they are engaged or not. If all adds are engaged it ticks for 1-2 per second, if 1 or more adds are not engaged 4-5 per second. To add on from what you said in the first post, that repleneshing the dots before entering would lose you time. If what is said is true, yes you lose time, but it wouldn't matter if there was 1 or all 4 repleneshing at the same time, the maximum it can tick for is 4-5. But I need to find a vid where no one engages the adds to conclude this.

EDIT: This was the video I used for the times: https://www.twitch.tv/krindor/v/108480938

[gumas]

lol is there something going on with DRG now?

i just check fflogs and DRG is at the bottom of dps now, i remember last month we are somewhere in mid, did something happened?

[Krindor]

lol is there something going on with DRG now?

i just check fflogs and DRG is at the bottom of dps now, i remember last month we are somewhere in mid, did something happened?

Gear nerf is strong for DRG, more people are reaching BiS and nins BiS is extremely good while DRG got shafted. Though there's also a difference in skill ceiling as can be seen where DRG has a higher one, at 75th % Nin is ahead, 80th they're equal and after that DRG is ahead.

[ValeriaL]

May I ask what is the BiS for going into A12S (counting you have everything before A12S, including the Augmented shire weapon), I'm having difficulty getting the skillspeed needed to get to 590 at least even with the alexandrian earrings equipped. Any help of what would be BiS going into A12s?

Thanks, appreciated.

[mosaicex]

May I ask what is the BiS for going into A12S (counting you have everything before A12S, including the Augmented shire weapon), I'm having difficulty getting the skillspeed needed to get to 590 at least even with the alexandrian earrings equipped. Any help of what would be BiS going into A12s?

Thanks, appreciated.

Have you tried melding Skill Speed to meet the cap? And maybe temporarily replace Shire pants with Alex pants (that one gives a lot of skill speed).

[SunnyHirose]

I did that fight with <500 SS for a couple weeks. Wasn't great, but the DPS checks are not that strict anyway. Honestly wouldn't bother unless you are finding it impossible to manage. The fight has so many downtimes that SS there is mainly about difficulty, not theoretical gains.

[LordMaitreya]

I have a question. If I use any of the jumps immediately after disembowel will they be effected by disembowel or should I wait until after chaos thrust?

Disembowel is not already on the target.

[xJimmehx]

I have a few questions..
Question 1)
H -> [BL+BFB] -> ID -> [IR+BOTD] -> DI -> [DRAC-POT] -> CT -> [PS+ LEGS] -> 4TH -> Fracture-> [JUMP] -> P -> [SSD] -> TT -> [DFD] -> VP -> [LIFES + GK] -> FT -> 4TH -> Repeat
If this is my rotation, do i always use every skill in this order? Skills like Jump usually will be up before i get to it if follow this rotation in order. So should i hold them until i get to them?(Im referring to the second or third time i go through this rotation when the cooldowns are refreshing mid rotation) I have been attempting to always follow this order and avoid breaking it but i feel like maybe that is holding back my dps when i do not press the oGCD skills.

Question 2) Is fracture worth wasting my TP and my GCD? I believe i heard that it provides very little dps and at the cost of more TP than it is worth to some people.

Question 3) Should i AoE in dungeons if i have more than 2 monsters(Obviously not going to AoE 2 or less - because math) and if so, how should i do it? I generally do this: H -> [BL+BFB] -> [IR+BOTD+GK+DFD] And spam ring of thorns until everything is dead, unless the monsters are in a pretty straight line and then i spam the other aoe.

[enthauptet]

I have a question. If I use any of the jumps immediately after disembowel will they be effected by disembowel or should I wait until after chaos thrust?

Disembowel is not already on the target.

AFAIK the effect is only active when the icon shows up on the boss which is after the animation finishes for disembowel.