Monk 3.0 CHAKRA UNLEASHED

[Aeliott]

How is it not a rotation? It's literally just dk, ts, snap, bs, true, snap. Then you use a different Coeurl ability every 3 gl refreshes which is demo. And then you also keep up ToD. I agree there are priorities like every other job but you literally just repeat the same 6 or so gcds in the same order unless you have to stop attacking and something falls off.

A lot of people seem to be terrified of adapting to DK -> True or Boot -> Twin even though it's sometimes optimal to adjust to this. Which breaks that "rotation". Depends how you define it though.

[Krindor]

A lot of people seem to be terrified of adapting to DK -> True or Boot -> Twin even though it's sometimes optimal to adjust to this. Which breaks that "rotation". Depends how you define it though.

This, while it can be seen as a rotation it's just better to simply look at it as a priority system, especially if explained to newer players, they might get stuck with the idea of a rotation and what Aeliott mentions will happen.
There's also the difference in openers which is optimally changed for every fight which causes changes to the rotation, especially if you want to optimize by using fracture.

[Ossom]

The buff to Demo is actually another argument for why you shouldn't open with Demolish on your opener, its a nerf.

Snap Snap Demo = 180(Snap) + 180*1.1(Snap) + 420*1.2(Demo) = 882 Potency

Demo Snap Snap = 420(Demo If you get the positional, 380 otherwise) + 180*1.1 + 180*1.2 = 834 (With Positional) 794 (Without Positional)

But I mean, I've been arguing for Snap Snap Demo for the longest now to no avail,

and besides, its less than an Auto Attack difference (882-794=88 potency) at even the worst case.

So less than 1000 damage difference.

[Morzy]

The buff to Demo is actually another argument for why you shouldn't open with Demolish on your opener, its a nerf.

Snap Snap Demo = 180(Snap) + 180*1.1(Snap) + 420*1.2(Demo) = 882 Potency

Demo Snap Snap = 420(Demo If you get the positional, 380 otherwise) + 180*1.1 + 180*1.2 = 834 (With Positional) 794 (Without Positional)

But I mean, I've been arguing for Snap Snap Demo for the longest now to no avail,

and besides, its less than an Auto Attack difference (882-794=88 potency) at even the worst case.

So less than 1000 damage difference.

I guess its time to break that demo snap snap habit. Ty

[Morzy]

At what ilvl can you expect to beat the A8S dummy without potion and food? I'm ilvl223 at the moment and doing 1670 +- on 3 minutes, is it any good? I dont use fracture, is it really necessary?

Ilvl 228. Im 227 and have gotten 1% at least 3 times now. My friend tells me it requires 1845.something dps.

[Brownondorf]

Ilvl 228. Im 227 and have gotten 1% at least 3 times now. My friend tells me it requires 1845.something dps.

Thx for the reply. I think i still need to improve my gameplay then because i'm not sure i'll gain +- 200 dps more just by getting to ilvl 228 :/ i should also start to use fracture i suppose.

[Krindor]

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With the amount of guides that do demo - snap - snap compared to snap - snap - demo it's really hard to try and get people to change. Pre-buff the difference in potency could be made up by the increased amount of dot ticks, as you started 1 1/2 dot tick earlier and the fight finished just as demo dropped you would gain with the demo first and vice versa for snap. Which was why there was no one rotation to rule them all, but with the changes to demo, snap - snap - demo is stronger even with 1 1/2 extra tick lost. Of course this still varies from fight to fight, A5S especially due to damage reduction on the boss.

[Morzy]

Thx for the reply. I think i still need to improve my gameplay then because i'm not sure i'll gain +- 200 dps more just by getting to ilvl 228 :/ i should also start to use fracture i suppose.

I'm also using my i230 relic btw. Idk if u have seph weapon, u didnt specify.

With fracture, I find the best time to squeeze it in is after u happen to apply Demolish and Touch of Death at the same time. The next time u will apply Demolish in this situation, ull face a demolish tick that's still at about 5 seconds and if u clip that by applying demolish, you'll lose a bit of dps, so I wait by filling Fracture in. This also makes DK very close, it might even fall off as ur about to reapply it, but it won't be long enough to argue it a DPS loss with Fracture.

Also I know this might seem silly, but do u also use target lock? You don't have to if you strafe, as long as u face boss and dont lose auto attacks.

Dont apply Internal Release and Blood for Blood until you r also applying DK and Twin.

tbh though. 5 overall ilvls might mean more of a difference than u think.

[Brownondorf]

Well, using a better opener and using fracture, a managed to get close to 1800 in 3 min parse lol didnt expect that much of a difference and i'm using the relic.

[Pastel_Orchid]

So I've kind of messed up my whole monk gear set up and could really use some advice on how to improve it. I forgot to log out as monk so my lodestone is showing my drk gear but if I remember correctly I am sitting at account 703 acc 840 crit 400 det and I can't remember my sks. A little background but gil wise I'm not really at a place where I could buy any craft able gear(let alone meld it) nor do I have a crafter skilled enough to make it so at this point I am looking for a way to improve my stats with using the armor that I can obtain via lore and midas pieces. I have the lore weapon(working on relic),body piece and ring _ everything else is midan. All melded with either crit or acc(minus the weapon) on it but only IV because I was nervous using my V melds on the pieces as I figured they would be upgraded at some point. I am not part of any sort of serious static so its not like I need to be pushing crazy numbers but I would just like to feel like I am utilizing the class in the best way that I possibly can. What I have been thinking is either: (both examples are with hellfire claws)

A) trade only certain items out such as the head piece, gloves, belt, shoes, earrings, and bracelet(which now that I look at it is about 80% of the gear ) but leave the midan pants + necklace
>>> Without melds this has me at 1196 str 675 acc 857 crit 391 det 715 sks (would I even want to meld acc at this point? or just focus on det/crit)

B)should I just get full out lore?
>>> Without melds 1211 STR 730 acc 755 crit (just seems terrible) 462 det 703 sks

I just feel like my acc is way too high and that my crit is way too low. Sorry if this is just a messy text blob I am not the best at typing out things.
Any advice would be appreciated!