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    Player
    DarkerOrange's Avatar
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    E'dok Edok
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    Masamune
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    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Claymore022 View Post
    Really? So you're saying my first dot tick can happen anywhere from 21-18sec? As in the tick can happen as soon as it goes up or right before the next tick is going to happen? And also the last tick can happen at 3 sec or it could possibly be at 0 sec? If that's the case then it would make sense that you're more likely to miss the last tick if it's refreshed right at 3. But that's pretty unavoidable in our openers
    Yep, that is correct.
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    Lilyth Chan
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Claymore022 View Post
    Not sure what kind of skill speed you've got but it's pretty hard to clip demo by 2 ticks xD
    Yeah, in using a snap, snap, demolish opener right now. GL2 Demolish ftw.

    Also, yes. My SS has been fairly high (around 850) since all the savage drops I been getting has a ton of it ;/
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    Enma Hellbringer
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    Sephirot
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    Alchemist Lv 70
    Updated 22/10/16: Added Alexander savage floor 10
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    Natyusha Nynaj
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    Exodus
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    Monk Lv 70
    Some people are still asking about raid openers and how many attacks fit into trick attack etc. so I made a twitch clip that demonstrates how things fit on a fight where you can tackle in early.

    https://clips.twitch.tv/townsend_/Pr...murSoonerLater

    Edit: new clip without arrow
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    Last edited by natyusha; 10-24-2016 at 12:26 PM.

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    Claymore Morqlae
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    Ultros
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    Monk Lv 80
    Can you link to fflogs please?
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    Dacien Chevalier
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    Monk Lv 60
    So, indulge me for a second, because I gotta ask. Are the current patch's stat weights basically the same as usual? (IE: Achieve hit cap, then WD > Str > Crit > Det> SkS roughly?) That's the route I usually follow, but every big gear update leaves me uncertain, so I wanted to ask. Hoping Sunny weighs in in particular, as I trust their opinion a lot.
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    Claymore Morqlae
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkDace View Post
    So, indulge me for a second, because I gotta ask. Are the current patch's stat weights basically the same as usual? (IE: Achieve hit cap, then WD > Str > Crit > Det> SkS roughly?) That's the route I usually follow, but every big gear update leaves me uncertain, so I wanted to ask. Hoping Sunny weighs in in particular, as I trust their opinion a lot.
    Yes. When gearing up, just stack as much crit as possible while meeting accuracy caps. Don't even worry about the other stats unless you're trying to reduce skill speed or something. And mapping out and going for a BiS is pointless unless you see yourself clearing the whole raid tier so just. So just stack crit
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    K'leytai Khen
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    Diabolos
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Claymore022 View Post
    Yes. When gearing up, just stack as much crit as possible while meeting accuracy caps. Don't even worry about the other stats unless you're trying to reduce skill speed or something. And mapping out and going for a BiS is pointless unless you see yourself clearing the whole raid tier so just. So just stack crit
    That's funny, I was just going to ask a related question about stats when MonkDace mentioned it. I have a few:
    1) How much SkS is considered to much? (Currently have 797)
    2) Is my Det to low? (Currently have 448)

    I haven't added materia to all my new gear, just yet, so that can play a factor. My Str, Crit, and ACC looks to be good.
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    U'tyada Tia
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    Odin
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    Marauder Lv 67
    Quote Originally Posted by Glenburg View Post
    That's funny, I was just going to ask a related question about stats when MonkDace mentioned it. I have a few:
    1) How much SkS is considered to much? (Currently have 797)
    2) Is my Det to low? (Currently have 448)

    I haven't added materia to all my new gear, just yet, so that can play a factor. My Str, Crit, and ACC looks to be good.
    There's no downside to the DPS with those stats, det and SS overall is valued close to eachother, the only issue is TP, especially around your level when you have to start using fracture to avoid clipping demo too early. Det won't affect the outcome too much so having it low doesn't have any negative effect. Atm if you're raiding just pickup whatever drops that has the highest main stats as long as you don't go too far ahead with the acc. If you're not raiding just look at what shire gear is in the BiS and buy those first while then buying the rest afterwards.
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    K'leytai Khen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krindor View Post
    There's no downside to the DPS with those stats, det and SS overall is valued close to eachother, the only issue is TP, especially around your level when you have to start using fracture to avoid clipping demo too early. Det won't affect the outcome too much so having it low doesn't have any negative effect. Atm if you're raiding just pickup whatever drops that has the highest main stats as long as you don't go too far ahead with the acc. If you're not raiding just look at what shire gear is in the BiS and buy those first while then buying the rest afterwards.
    Hey Krindor,
    Thank you for the feedback, and it all makes sense. And yeah, I had a mix between the better Shire gear and some of the Alex: Creator gear.

    On another topic you mentioned, I know I don't take advantage of fracture.
    In what instances should fracture be applied to my rotations? The biggest things that kept me from using it was the
    impression of if its a loss/gain in DPS, also TP issues. I'm comfortable working with ToD and Demolish, however.
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