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  1. #1141
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    Greywolfamakir's Avatar
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    Greywolf Amakir
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Butcherboy View Post
    I went back to the original 3.0 rotation, it seems I'm scaling much higher. Heck I burst at 1.8k and sustain 1.6k sustain for 3min and 30 sec. I was ilvl 196 at the time
    Something is wrong here dude.

    Are we using the same parser? ACT?
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  2. #1142
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    Butcherboy's Avatar
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Cactuar
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Ok correction I sustain 1425 sustain . The 1.6k was the first spike I got when I went back to 3.0 rotation. Then I did it again this time 33% crit sustain 1430 and spike at 1.8k. Sry for the confusion.
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  3. #1143
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    Greywolf Amakir
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    Ragnarok
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Butcherboy View Post
    Ok correction I sustain 1425 sustain . The 1.6k was the first spike I got when I went back to 3.0 rotation. Then I did it again this time 33% crit sustain 1430 and spike at 1.8k. Sry for the confusion.
    Fine, that numbers are more logic currently.
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  4. #1144
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    Should I be focusing more DET or more SS in my bis build? Using the Tantra Chestwrap I can get Accuracy:678 Determination:490 Skillspeed:557. Utilizing the Gordian chest I net Accuracy:650 Determination:427 Skillspeed:651. With the latter build there isnt as much wasted Accuracy, however I do lose a lot of determination to gain 94 skill speed.
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    Just Do It.

  5. #1145
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    Almalexia Indoril
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Any ACC over cap is wasted, whether it's X+5 or X+500, so yours is just a comparison between between 63 DET and 94 SS.

    If we use Dervy's weights as a guideline -
    DET: 0.139
    SS: 0.116
    - then we can compare 8.757 DET to 10.904 SS. Gordian is preferred for your build.
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  6. #1146
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    Ricdeau Cyton
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Saigwa View Post
    Should I be focusing more DET or more SS in my bis build? Using the Tantra Chestwrap I can get Accuracy:678 Determination:490 Skillspeed:557. Utilizing the Gordian chest I net Accuracy:650 Determination:427 Skillspeed:651. With the latter build there isnt as much wasted Accuracy, however I do lose a lot of determination to gain 94 skill speed.
    Current weights from Dervy are:

    WD: 10.714
    STR: 1.000
    DET: 0.139
    CRT: 0.167
    SS: 0.116

    All you need to do is figure up your total for each secondary stat and multiply it by the weight value, and then add your secondaries together then compare. It will be up to you to determine if the difference is worth going after if you do not have the gear already. Keep in mind there is no skillspeed threshold for monk, and there are many varying opinions how much to take. There are very effective monks on both ends of extremely low and high skill speed as well as everywhere between (key thing to take away here is skill speed is not a detriment to monk like it is some other classes). However, I will note that the first set of stats you listed have you are pretty far over the accuracy cap which means you are wasting stat opportunities elsewhere.
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  7. #1147
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    Tiffany Liz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Hakmatic View Post
    Also butcher boy how are you sustaining 1600 dps at ilvl198 for 3 and half minutes. You sure you're not mistaken? I'm full 210 and I went for four minutes tonight and was at 1591. Could have been a better.
    what are your invigorate timings? i find myself running out of tp at the 3min mark...
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  8. #1148
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    Commodore Butcherboy
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    I start to empty around 3 min and 15 sec. I hit invigorating around 570 to 580 to left.
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  9. #1149
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    Edward Volcdegen
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    Adamantoise
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    We call that inflation sir.
    It's inflation via mercy stroke, and more than likely party buff. This forum is somewhat of a joke with people claiming absurd things.
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  10. #1150
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    Hak Matic
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Oh I went a little dry before popping my last invig. I just feel 4 mins is a good dummy number.
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