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  1. #1631
    Player
    Brownondorf's Avatar
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    Katuchi La-chancla
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    Moogle
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    Bard Lv 90
    At what ilvl can you expect to beat the A8S dummy without potion and food? I'm ilvl223 at the moment and doing 1670 +- on 3 minutes, is it any good? I dont use fracture, is it really necessary?
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  2. #1632
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    Ossom Possom
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    Adamantoise
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    Armorer Lv 53
    Fracture (if even a single tick crits or the initial hit crits) is your third strongest GCD skill (fourth strongest if no ticks or the initial does not crit). Is it necessary? No. But then again nothing is necessary from what I've seen in duty finder. Hell, I've beaten T1-T13 on Arcanist, so even the Job Crystal isn't necessary.

    But is it highly recommend for good reason? Yes.
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  3. #1633
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    Rhaya Wolfsbane
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 71
    2 questions :

    Is Xeno's monk opening good to use ?


    and how should monk rotation go after the opening burst to keep dps and bufs and dots going ?
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  4. #1634
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    U'tyada Tia
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    Odin
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    Marauder Lv 67
    Quote Originally Posted by thorgal View Post
    2 questions :

    Is Xeno's monk opening good to use ?


    and how should monk rotation go after the opening burst to keep dps and bufs and dots going ?
    Xeno has a MNK guide?

    The opener that I recommend is one of the ones on the first page, Ossom also got a really good opener somewhere in the thread as well,

    MNK doesn't really have a rotation, it's more of a priority system where you want to keep everything up.

    If Demolitions tick is on < 5 use demo else use snap punch
    Is dragon kick/twin snakes < 7 use it else Bootshine/True Strike
    Touch of death is used whenever it's about to drop off, if ToD and Demo are both 5 or less clip ToD to avoid clipping demo.
    Fracture can be used as well if you haven't used a ToD within the current Dragon kick and twin snake buff, it is mostly used before demo to avoid clipping it.
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  5. #1635
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    Rhaya Wolfsbane
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 71
    thanks .

    btw i meant this video of Xenos for monk opener : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCu5I37GVMY
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  7. #1636
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    Claymore Morqlae
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    Ultros
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by thorgal View Post
    thanks .

    btw i meant this video of Xenos for monk opener : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCu5I37GVMY
    Edit: I just noticed he uses ts before dk. I'm not sure why he does this but I recommend using DK first

    That opener is fine. If you want to use fracture in there then just delay all ogcd until after the first dk(assuming you're using dk before ts) and use frac right after or before the second twin snakes. If you use it before then frac will be buffed by everything but ts will fall off right before reapplication. If you use it after then frac won't be buffed by IR.
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    Last edited by Claymore022; 05-20-2016 at 04:48 AM.

  8. #1637
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    Claymore Morqlae
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    Ultros
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Krindor View Post

    MNK doesn't really have a rotation, it's more of a priority system where you want to keep everything up. it.
    How is it not a rotation? It's literally just dk, ts, snap, bs, true, snap. Then you use a different Coeurl ability every 3 gl refreshes which is demo. And then you also keep up ToD. I agree there are priorities like every other job but you literally just repeat the same 6 or so gcds in the same order unless you have to stop attacking and something falls off.
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  9. #1638
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    Almalexia Indoril
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syhrwyb View Post
    Watched the video. I personally don't start with Demolish because I notice that I usually miss the rear positional as the boss turns.
    Even so, Demo from any direction will do more damage than Snap from any direction.
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  10. #1639
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    Syhrlona Haldhaerzwyn
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    Even so, Demo from any direction will do more damage than Snap from any direction.
    Looking over the potencies this should've been obvious to me. Learn something everyday, I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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  11. #1640
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    Morzone Vandalfo
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    Siren
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Syhrwyb View Post
    Looking over the potencies this should've been obvious to me. Learn something everyday, I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Especially with the demo buff in 3.2 =p. I was gonna say something the other day but i know some like to start with snap anyway so i didnt bother.

    However if im bored tomorrow i might try snap first. Im i227 n got the a8s dunny to 1% several times. Its irritating. Im just bad i guess.
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