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    Tommyhawk's Avatar
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    Tommy Hawk
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 80

    What do the expert Summoners do to fill in the Aetherflow gap?

    On a training dummy, I put my DOTs, Deathflare, pet actions, the festers then bahamut and my DPS is wonderful, then comes the lull between atherflows where I'm just spamming ruin and keeping my DOTs up cause everything is on cooldown and I just watch my DPS just plummet. What is used to keep your DPS high during that lull?
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    Gweyowmi Gehl
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    Mateus
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Well, Summoner seems like a burst class, so our lulls are probably unavoidable as with any typical burst class.

    this is why in my opinion, damage for the entire fight means more than the "DPS" section of the meters, I raided heavily when I use to play WoW, I play on ps4 so I dont have access to the meters nor know their capabilities.

    But I know in WoW you could burst, then die and stay dead for the rest of the fight, and if you kept your meter on dps page you could still be 3rd place etc, even though you actually didnt do that much for the fight as a whole. make sense?

    I would just worry about avoiding mistakes since SMN isnt forgiving, and looking into damage as a whole and if you are achieving the amount of damage your group needs as a whole. I am a new FF player though and not 70 yet. So I could be wrong, but this is my knowledge from raiding on a raid team in the past in other MMO's.
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    Lynn Nuvestrahl
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    Moogle
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    Machinist Lv 90
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Dear god, what has summoner become to require that much ruin spam.
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    Dahlinea Thriss
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    Dear god, what has summoner become to require that much ruin spam.
    A Ruined Mage.

    Jokes aside, on Cooldown times you have to spam Ruin III/Ruin (squeezing Ruin II here and there) always minding your MP, control some Pet actions and reaplying dots manually or with tri-disaster if up in time for next Aetherflow/Bahamut phase. There's nothing much to do outside this. Also it is best to try to align Bahamut with the next Aetherflow so you can make Bahamut hit more times as well.
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    Michael Stormcloud
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Dahlinea View Post
    A Ruined Mage.

    Jokes aside, on Cooldown times you have to spam Ruin III/Ruin (squeezing Ruin II here and there) always minding your MP, control some Pet actions and reaplying dots manually or with tri-disaster if up in time for next Aetherflow/Bahamut phase. There's nothing much to do outside this. Also it is best to try to align Bahamut with the next Aetherflow so you can make Bahamut hit more times as well.
    Pretty much this. SMN has a legit 2 minute rotation before it repeats. Off the top of my head, I think there's only 2 20 second sequences where you literally have nothing to do but Ruin.
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    Baragara Nazzlohsyn
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    Cactuar
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Don't think of it as boring Ruin spam, think of it as a little reprieve before your next crazy weaving phase.
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    Dahlinea Thriss
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Pyitoechito View Post
    Don't think of it as boring Ruin spam, think of it as a little reprieve before your next crazy weaving phase.
    It is a little boring but not that breaking, imo. Unfortunately, if you don't Crit/Dhit a lot on your burst and on that "Ruin phase", this "reprieve" can cost you a lot in numbers. Not to mention that high latency on my part makes that "Ruin II squeeze" between abilities fail a lot for me, sadly.
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    Last edited by Dahlinea; 08-03-2017 at 02:05 AM.

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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Sadly SE dumbed down Summoner a little too much and I wish we had a few more skills to use in our "cooldown" phase. This and Bahamut design (being tethered to AF for max dps) are the two biggest mechanical issues with the job IMO.
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