Why are low standards for dps acceptable?

[File2ish]

He didn't call the person a bot. He asked a yes or no question if they are, or are not sometime after the first boss. Learn to read.

It's a legitimate question if your group already spent upwards of 10 minutes in the dungeon without so much as anything that resembles a human greeting. Again, people need to stop being overly sensitive over nothing.

He then followed it with 'why are you not using X?', which isn't insulting at all.



People skills should not include coddling the worst parts of the persona such as undeserved pride, and ego, and accepting being told to shut up by those you try to help.

Who really needs the people skills? The OP, or the group he tried to help, and got ragged on for it? Read that convo again and tell me who really cast the first stone.

Referring back to my post on page 12 of this thread.

[RiceisNice]

Referring back to my post on page 12 of this thread.

We're not talking about optimal rotations though, because in the OP's example, we're talking about someone that's straight up not using a skill that grants bonuses just for using it.. And in this game, the skills practically get auto-placed into your skill bar anyway and the job ones have a cutscene that display you acquiring said skill.

And honestly, I have seen my fair share of botting in dungeons, especially if they do not respond to my question (which may be striaght up "are you a bot?") or "hit no if you aren't a bot" ready checks. You'd only take offense to it if you truly get offended by it (which goes for almost anything, not this specifically) and if you actually want to make a big deal out of it; it takes two sides to start a dispute like this.

[vp_cmc]

"hit no if you aren't a bot" ready checks.

I think I'd hit "Yes" just before I notice something in party chat

[Reilyn]

Referring back to my post on page 12 of this thread.

1st paragraph: I understand that.

2nd: OP gave his reason why he was somewhat qualified to instruct someone on how to BLM when he was asked the question 'wanna tell a dps how to dps?'. You can read it in whatever tone you want, but all that is there are words over the internet, and they say nothing more than 'yes, because I have BLM at 60' therefore he likely has an idea on how to help that BLM get better.

Before that from what we see, all he did was ask 'are you a bot?' (a yes or no question, which was answered sarcastically anyway), and 'why are you not using enochian?' which another party member chose to deflect with another question that more often than not leads into a credibility attack.

Also, the qualifier for bringing up the issue is someone's intentional non-willingness to use an ability who's effect is literally 'you do more damage', not the fact he has a lvl60 BLM. I do the same with DRGs that never use heavy thrust or disembowel. He only brought up his lvl60 BLM AFTER he was asked 'wanna tell a dps how to dps'. I wouldn't bring up my DRG's level unless asked because it doesn't even take a level capped player to understand there's something wrong with that picture.

[zosia]

The amount of baddie apologist in these threads amazes me. I told myself that it was pointless to keep posting on these forums but this thread did it! These apologist dragged me back in. Can the SJW oriented players around here please understand that no one has a god given right not to be offended?

The offending BLM sucked.

The OP wanted to offer up constructive help.

The OP was misconstrued since tone is often lost in translation of brief communication.

The bad BLM gets butt hurt and abuses the vote kick system because their ego is so fragile that any criticism offered instantly has to turn into a cat fight.

The OP posts his experiences and shows us why the collective skill of the FFXIV player base is a joke in contrast to any other MMO.

Then, People attack the OP for being rude?

This game....
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I can't even XD you guys are just too much!

Can you baddie apologist please stop supporting sub par gameplay for the sake of an argument that there may be some far removed scenario where an MMO player is unable to learn their class because of naivety? JFC is it so much to ask that people google "ffxiv blm rotation"? I guess so!

[Whiteroom]

The amount of baddie apologist in these threads amazes me. I told myself that it was pointless to keep posting on these forums but this thread did it! These apologist dragged me back in. Can the SJW oriented players around here please understand that no one has a god given right not to be offended?

The offending BLM sucked.

The OP wanted to offer up constructive help.

The OP was misconstrued since tone is often lost in translation of brief communication.

The bad BLM gets butt hurt and abuses the vote kick system because their ego is so fragile that any criticism offered instantly has to turn into a cat fight.

The OP posts his experiences and shows us why the collective skill of the FFXIV player base is a joke in contrast to any other MMO.

Then, People attack the OP for being rude?

This game....
L
o
L

I can't even XD you guys are just too much!

Can you baddie apologist please stop supporting sub par gameplay for the sake of an argument that there may be some far removed scenario where an MMO player is unable to learn their class because of naivety? JFC is it so much to ask that people google "ffxiv blm rotation"? I guess so!

Hey hey now! look on the bright side.

Although we have seen the "People may not know information can be found on the internet!" argument (lol, ikr, who would have thought information was on the internet), we have yet to see the "Think of the disabled!" argument... It's the small things you should take joy in.

[zosia]

Hey hey now! look on the bright side.

Although we have seen the "People may not know information can be found on the internet!" argument (lol, ikr, who would have thought information was on the internet), we have yet to see the "Think of the disabled!" argument... It's the small things you should take joy in.

True, and I agree. Nothing really to do at this point but to /popcorn and go back to lurking!

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[Ashkendor]

Hey hey now! look on the bright side.

Although we have seen the "People may not know information can be found on the internet!" argument (lol, ikr, who would have thought information was on the internet), we have yet to see the "Think of the disabled!" argument... It's the small things you should take joy in.

There's an enormous difference between someone that's disabled but doing their best and someone that's just being lazy or ignorant though. In the 20+ years that I've been gaming online, I've played with plenty of people with one disability or another, ranging from color-blindness (my static's last BLM) to deafness, nerve disorders, missing limbs, etc. I even played a MUD (the text-based forerunner to the modern MMO for you youngins in the crowd that may be unfamiliar with the term) with a blind guy. Seriously, think about that for a second. A blind dude playing a text-based game. Technology is friggin awesome. :3