Please stop asking SE to make FFXIV more easy!

[Havenchild]

Who else should they cater to? People who cleared it on release aren't doing T5 now. The only people who are still trying it are the ones who have not cleared it yet, and they clearly need the nerfs.

Why reduce the the difficulty of the fights through mechanic nerfs though? You take away the challenge and experience for those after you. Echo/ DF accessibility and ilvl is already enough.

Why are mechanic nerfs needed? Only reason that comes to mind is catering to bad or nonfunctional players. In which case, my next question is why is content being adjusted for the people that fit this bracket? If your answer was then so they can "experience the story" in this " gated content", then you should support a separate story mode that can do just that.

The fights themselves should remain intact in all their initial difficulty or what's left of it mechanically post overgearing/echo.

If you haven't beat T5 by now, a year after the fight was released, you are without a shadow of a doubt, not pursuing this fight hard enough.

[SDaemon]

If you haven't beat T5 by now, a year after the fight was released, you are without a shadow of a doubt, not pursuing this fight hard enough.

LOL.....oh wait, you were serious?

[kyuven]

If you haven't beat T5 by now, a year after the fight was released, you are without a shadow of a doubt, not pursuing this fight hard enough.

Are you implying that people who may have started later aren't "pursuing the fight hard enough"?
Now, I don't think t5, 9, and 13 should be nerfed, but getting started and finding a roadblock that keeps you 2 tiers of content behind your friends is ludicrous. Echo is fine for accomplishing this, but you can't accuse people of not "trying hard enough" when they're stuck behind everyone else.

[Gardes]

Are you implying that people who may have started later aren't "pursuing the fight hard enough"?
Now, I don't think t5, 9, and 13 should be nerfed, but getting started and finding a roadblock that keeps you 2 tiers of content behind your friends is ludicrous. Echo is fine for accomplishing this, but you can't accuse people of not "trying hard enough" when they're stuck behind everyone else.

I would say yes, if you've been playing for 2 patches/6 by now months and still haven't beaten t5. Your 2nd sentence makes it even more so. If you have friends that are that much ahead of you and they cant spare 15-20 mins somewhere in that 6 month period, they aren't friends.

[kyuven]

I would say yes, if you've been playing for 2 patches/6 by now months and still haven't beaten t5. Your 2nd sentence makes it even more so. If you have friends that are that much ahead of you and they cant spare 15-20 mins somewhere in that 6 month period, they aren't friends.

Sometimes it isn't that simple.
First off I'm going to assume this hypothetical person HASN'T been playing for 2 patches, but is 2 TIERS WORTH OF CONTENT, meaning this person is on BCOB while their friends are on FCOB. Tiers, not patches. Also, this person has NOT been playing for six months.
Let's say you have 3 friends that play the game regularly. Which is pretty normal. It takes time to build a large group of friends, and having a few is pretty normal.
Now, let's say again, that YOU are the only tank in the group. So, you and your friends get together to try to get your clear for t5.
Typically you either have to get your friends to call in every favor they have to get the group going, or you have to take a risk of getting bad players. Moreover, you, as the new player AND the tank, will screw up. This is inevitable, and perfectly normal.
For a new player.
Not for the "regulars."
So with each inevitable wipe, you risk losing a party member. You will always have a 4 person party, but you'll also have to deal with a possible revolving door of people trying to accomplish the same thing. Sure they'll hopefully clear it in 6 months, but being stuck on this content is extremely disheartening, especially once you get good enough and can definitively say it's NOT your fault.
And this is only t5. t9 is a completely different animal. This is also not considering that you COULD have 12 different friends or more, but without the right roles you're just not gonna be able to do it. If you have 100 friends but not one is a healer, and you're a tank, then you're STILL taking a risk. This is a hyperbolic situation but I hope I'm getting across my point.
I don't think people really understand how difficult it can be for new players to progress through content simply to get caught up. The game gets nerfed and made easier not for the people who are caught up, but for these people who are trying to get caught up in a reasonable amount of time.

If you started way later after the gravy train and still haven't finished T5 patches upon patches later? Yeah I am implying as such. Obviously were not talking about someone whose leveling their first character here.

Isn't someone who started after the gravy train by definition a newer player leveling their first character?
I'm not talking about people who have been dawdling on it since Ramuh was new content. I'm talking about people who, at this point, don't know the game without FCOB being in existence.

[Havenchild]

Are you implying that people who may have started later aren't "pursuing the fight hard enough"?
Now, I don't think t5, 9, and 13 should be nerfed, but getting started and finding a roadblock that keeps you 2 tiers of content behind your friends is ludicrous. Echo is fine for accomplishing this, but you can't accuse people of not "trying hard enough" when they're stuck behind everyone else.

If you started way later after the gravy train and still haven't finished T5 patches upon patches later? Yeah I am implying as such. Obviously were not talking about someone whose leveling their first character here. I won't say the fight is easy for any newcomer, but no, if you want a clear that badly, make a PF if you can't get a win in DF. Enough DF/PF parties until you get the experience you need and you'll get a clear. This invisible wall / roadblock people keep claiming is their own lack of pursuit. If you want the clear go get it and stop sitting around expecting it to fall into your lap via static or otherwise. Even if you have no will to DF it, can you honestly say you equally have absolutely no one willing to help you with the fight on your entire server, via friends, PF, linkshells, FC?

How many excuses does it take to realize some people are just blowing smoke on their inability to clear something like T5 by now?

Have extra time? Find/Make a static.
Don't have time? PF/DF practice it when you can. Recruit people that know up to what you do.
Don't even have time for that? Stop raiding then, it's not for you. You clearly don't have enough time and also stop asking for the content to be nerfed for you.