Quote Originally Posted by Ikeda View Post
Because it is a simple matter that you and other cash shop enthusiasts just keep ignoring. As I've said a million freaking times. People play P2P mmos to avoid cash shops. It may not apply to you or a few others but the vast majority of people who play P2P mmos do it because they feel they're getting the full game for a consistent fee rather than feeling nickle and dimed for every little piece of content. Every P2P mmo that has failed that had a cash shop had somewhere between a few hundred thousand to 2 million subscribers. FFXIV has somewhere between a few hundred thousand to 2 million subscribers. WoW (the only P2P mmo to survive with a cash shop) has about 7-8 million subscribers (used to have more) and is slowly bleeding subscribers each passing year. It's all in the freaking numbers.

Also you bringing up those other mmos being funded by investors instead of self funded just pretty much blew a hole in your and other cash shop enthusiast's argument for cash shops. Back when they were preparing for ARR's launch in a interview Yoshi P brought up that point about the other mmos when asked about a cash shop or going F2P. He said since FFXIV is self funded they can rely solely on the steady long term income of a monthly fee without having to even consider a cash shop or going F2P because they don't have investors breathing down their backs wanting their money quickly. So once again this entire thread is freaking pointless.

Another thing you need to remember. YOU don't work for SE and neither do the other cash shop enthusiasts. So what possible reason could you have for even suggesting a cash shop? You won't profit from it and no matter how much you scream "but but but SE will be liek the one company to do the right thing and use the extra profit to update the game faster " over and over it isn't going to make it true. If anything your way of thinking is the one that's naive.
It is a simple matter that you and other "corporations are evil" people just keep ignoring. As I've said a million freaking times.

People don't play P2P MMOs to avoid cash shops, I play P2P MMOs for a steady stream of content patches, there you go, you only speak for yourself, you don't represent everyone, don't be disillusioned into thinking that you are a representative of players.

vast majority? statistics please.

every P2P MMO failed because of cash shop? that is funny, since most of those P2P MMOs failed before they had cash shops and cash shops are like a hail mary for them.

Yoshida statement was on cash shop? source please, AFAIK, it referred specifically to F2P model, as for the ability to maintain content patches, sure, but we're not talking about key content here, instead we're talking about content that might otherwise not be implemented because there isn't sufficient demand for them to justify the cost.

Seems like you're unable to really prove anything and are just hoping that people take your word for it, regardless of how inane it might have been.

I am a paying customer, I have as much rights to rebut your fear-mongering of "cash-shop = instant fail"

Instead of trying to put words I've never said in my mouth, perhaps try polishing your arguments?