Acceptable Cash Shop Items: Suggestions!

[Bloodclaw]

I would like to start a discussion of suggestions for acceptable (not P2W) items, effects, and services that SE can make more money on with out destroying the game.

Here are some of my initial thoughts:

*Race abilities switch: Allow you to replace with the appearance of one race but the statistics of another. Basically glamour for race selection. Yes this is a minor benefit, but hey, some like myself would buy it. Noticed a few days ago, an Roegadyn the other day had a lower item level gear, but had more HP than my Miqo'te by a few hundred HP even. Not much, but it was disturbing they were lower iLvl than I at the same time.

*Glamour Items: I am 50/50 on this one, but its a possibility. Perhaps 1 set a year? Gender nutral too would be preferred.

*Barding: More acceptable than straight up glamour to me. Maybe a cycle with a different set of barding for each zodiac period. When that gets old have versions 2+ show up, with the originals/older versions being on sale for a cheaper price.

Anyone else have any additional ideas?

Now if you have any suggestions granting any sort of game mechanic idea, I won't be addressing them here, and I kindly request it not be dealt with here. If you want my impute or join in the discussion, you can check it out Here.

I rather just not have cash shop in general. Too great becomes the temptation to nickel and dime people into P2W, even if the initial intent is just glamour related.

OOOH I TOTALLY agree. However they will need up up their money intake, so I think it is unavoidable. I just want to help steer it in a good direction.

[Hysterior]

I hope nothing more than what we have now
Fantasia is already borderline

[necrosis]

I hope nothing more than what we have now
Fantasia is already borderline

Fantasia is already overboard. Because SE is bowing to the masses with this honestly I do not think SE will ever consider anything the public complains and wines for out of the question.

[Diavolo]

I rather just not have cash shop in general. Too great becomes the temptation to nickel and dime people into P2W, even if the initial intent is just glamour related.

[Bloodclaw]

I rather just not have cash shop in general. Too great becomes the temptation to nickel and dime people into P2W, even if the initial intent is just glamour related.

OOOH I TOTALLY agree. However they will need up up their money intake, so I think it is unavoidable. I just want to help steer it in a good direction.

[rina_inverse]

OOOH I TOTALLY agree. However they will need up up their money intake, so I think it is unavoidable. I just want to help steer it in a good direction.

but they already have their money intake
from my subs

so, nope

[Bloodclaw]

but they already have their money intake
from my subs

so, nope

Subs will decline, not increase. They always do.

[Killance]

Subs will decline, not increase. They always do.

Subs will continue to decline with this cash shop feature. Its one thing to have gender/race/name change available, its a completely different game if you add armor, bardings, and things like that.

SE needs to get their head out of their asses and not go through with this cash shop.

[Skull_Angel]

They take away things from the game. It would make crafters even more useless.

Because vanity in this game is content...

Right now, the main market that crafters have is people who are looking for cool vanity items. If these vanity items are offered in a cash shop, then that reduces incentive to craft, destroys the in-game market for crafted goods (no demand), and generally reduces the usefulness of crafting in general. Except for food. Those Culinarians are always in need.

This can be a valid argument, but it is more or less countered by offering items that are not available through crafting. Also, crafting can be made more viable by allowing crafters to make more powerful equipment [that is more equal to "raid" gear] (under certain restrictions), since that is a very real concern (I do craft myself).

I'll also note that i'm yet to see a good argument why they SHOULD be in the game. If you're so desperate to give them more money take out a second sub, or buy another collectors edition.

I'm not saying that they should, but if a company decides to open a cash shop in a P2P based game it's their decision. I have no issue with it if it's done in a way that does not create a P2W game.

Think about it like this: We pay a monthly fee to play this game, all features involved. Adding a vanity shop divorces some of the content that could be in game so people might shell out more for it.
You're effectively paying more for content that should be obtainable in the game you're already paying for.

Yes, and no. Adding a vanity shop doesn't necessarily take away from any in-game content unless the level of content being released in that category (vanity) is being reduced because of it.

What happens to that "excess" money is a big concern though; if it is going into further developing the game or even to legitimate charitable causes, I believe it to be acceptable.

[Lunavi]

Idk, even Fantasia is really P2W... I see people buying 100's of them to be able to switch race when they switch class.

A mount would be ok at most if you ask me.