Removing elemental nukes from WHM

[AdvancedWind]

*All* elements is a stretch.. but having the most control over the basic elemental wheel is traditionally always given to Black Mages. That post you linked.. I can't believe so many ppl fell for that as if that supported your argument AT ALL. One of your 'points' you name one game out the entire series and call that a tradition? And 3 outta 5 of your other 'points' actually support Altena's arguement.. And then the 1st point is just wrong ( which you admint you didn't do thorough research..). So.. uh.. kay?

So I actually did my research once again. Listing games with defined job system.

Final Fantasy I Black Magic: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/M...29#Black_Magic (Quake is here, but it's techinically an instant kill move, non-elemental)

Final Fantasy III Black Magic: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/C...II_Black_Magic (FTI + Quake now a proper earth elemental spells)

Final Fantasy V Black Magic

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/C..._V_Black_Magic (Fire, Thunder, Ice onry)

Final Fantasy Tactics Black Mage , Final Fantasy Tactics Advance Black Mage, Final Fantasy Tactics A2 Black Mage

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/B..._%28Tactics%29

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/B...ics_Advance%29

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/B...8Tactics_A2%29

(Fire, Thunder, Ice onry)

And now games without a defined job system

Final Fantasy II Black Magic: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/C...II_Black_Magic (Fire, Thunder, Ice onry)

FFIV: Palom and Porom do learn Quake as black magic.

FFVII. FFVIII: Has no "black magic" definition

FFIX: Party black mage learns Fire, thunder, ice and one water spell

FFX: Fire, Ice, Water and Thunder are Black magic

FFXI+: Entire elemental wheel is considered black magic

You miiight have a bit of a point with quake since it was on I and III, but not the full elemental wheel. FFXI is the only job system FF game in which black mage has access to all elements. Only after XI that games really started considering all elemental magic as black magic

I gotta leave work, else I'd actually check black mage movesets in the chocobo spin off games.