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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    AST+SCH is still like 20% ahead of every comp deep in an off patch where people who are good at aligning raid buffs aren’t even playing the tier
    20%? Hyperbole? Else, the amount seems pretty fight-varied but never more than ~8% between the top AST-SCH combined rDPS and the next non-AST/SCH comp's.

    More generally... there's... only two AST+SCH pairs in the top 20 for Healer Combined rDPS.

    The most seen healer among the top 20 for healer combined rDPS... is Sage, in 14 out of the top 20, followed extremely closely by WHM at 13... while AST is only in 7 of the top 20 and SCH only in 6.

    Even in 7.05, AST+SCH was only 4 of the top 20 versus, say, 8 WHM-SGE comps.
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    20%? Hyperbole? Else, the amount seems pretty fight-varied but never more than ~8% between the top AST-SCH combined rDPS and the next non-AST/SCH comp's.

    More generally... there's... only two AST+SCH pairs in the top 20 for Healer Combined rDPS.

    The most seen healer among the top 20 for healer combined rDPS... is Sage, in 14 out of the top 20, followed extremely closely by WHM at 13... while AST is only in 7 of the top 20 and SCH only in 6.

    Even in 7.05, AST+SCH was only 4 of the top 20 versus, say, 8 WHM-SGE comps.
    I have no idea how that “all stars” is calculated. When you swap from “all stars” to looking at the top combined healer DPS of each individual fight SCH+AST is all 20 of the top 20 in 1 out of 4 fights and more than 15/20 in the other 3 and in 7.05 was the all the top 20 in every fight. I can only assume the best performers in one specific fight may have not performed terribly well in another so the group that was in the top 50 in all 4 got a higher ranking than someone who got 1st in one fight but didn’t even crack the top 500 in another. But that just shows individual player consistency not the average strength of the job

    As for AST+SCH being 20% ahead that was my bad that was from 7.05 where they range from 12% to 22% ahead. It’s closer to 5-10% in 7.1
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess