#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Kes13a]

The pure/barrier split was very likely created as a distinction to justify their current design of the 4 healers, because the raid finder does pick 1 pure and 1 barrier healer from queue for savage fights, if they didn't do the split, some comps would be near unclearable. Imagine doing M3S in the early weeks and raid finder gave you GNB/DRK/WHM/AST.

That said, the pure/barrier split issues wouldn't even exist if they didn't keep trying to force the healers into the tiny little box with no design freedom allowed.

well, its the only box they could find that had no air holes

[Dante131]

The pure/barrier split was very likely created as a distinction to justify their current design of the 4 healers, because the raid finder does pick 1 pure and 1 barrier healer from queue for savage fights, if they didn't do the split, some comps would be near unclearable. Imagine doing M3S in the early weeks and raid finder gave you GNB/DRK/WHM/AST.

That said, the pure/barrier split issues wouldn't even exist if they didn't keep trying to force the healers into the tiny little box with no design freedom allowed.

i mean ast was capable to play barrier aswell would be intresting to see macrocosmos in noct stance actually :/ no i am sad and mad

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

The split has always rubbed me the wrong way and felt like an excuse to not give WHM some shields or mitigation and to rip Noct from AST. I'd rather have it so every healer is capable of regens, shields, and raw heals, but in varying capacities. Sure, make WHM the obvious choice for making the HP bar go up fast, but don't have it unable to protect a party from heavy hits. Let SCH be king of shields, but don't make it incapable of dealing with heal-from-1 mechanics.

Yes I know SCH is also practically king of raw heals at the moment, that's another problem that Square has made.

I feel the same way. Lv78 traits on Soil back in ShB, anybody? I had that moment: “Why is this trait exists on a BARRIER Healer??”

As for Noct AST, they could’ve just leave that section entirely intact and it won’t even be an issue today. It’s just an excuse and smokescreen attempt to fool the uninformed that there is an actual dichotomy.

[Dante131]

I feel the same way. Lv78 traits on Soil back in ShB, anybody? I had that moment: “Why is this trait exists on a BARRIER Healer??”

As for Noct AST, they could’ve just leave that section entirely intact and it won’t even be an issue today. It’s just an excuse and smokescreen attempt to fool the uninformed that there is an actual dichotomy.

the sad part is i am more convinced they just didnt want to put in the effort create / balance the stuff for noct stance. But i think it wouldve been cooler to have AST as Hybrid mabe even SGE because why not 1 pure 1 barrier and 2 flexible hybrids would be so cool in my opinion.

[Supersnow845]

the sad part is i am more convinced they just didnt want to put in the effort create / balance the stuff for noct stance. But i think it wouldve been cooler to have AST as Hybrid mabe even SGE because why not 1 pure 1 barrier and 2 flexible hybrids would be so cool in my opinion.

SGE already is a flexi healer

People focus so strongly on the fact that SGE’s GCD’s are shields but beyond that SGE barely has more mitigation than AST (kerechole is up twice as often as CU, holos+panhaima roughly equals neutral sect+sunsign) and is drowning in pure healing

SCH is really the only one that actively weaponises shields but it’s also drowning in free healing, just as WHM is really the only one that feels like a pure healer but its lack of shields acts to its detriment

If you removed pure healing from SCH you could basically right there turn the meta into “anything you want”

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Shouldn’t also forget that the addition of Philosophia further drags SGE away from its mitigative/shielding domain. That style of pankardia could’ve been what Physis is while giving us something else in lv100 yanno?

But no, for some reason they need something to enables them eek out Cure III-degree of burst healing it’s not even funny anymore given how often they’ve done this to the barrier healers: have them steal WHM’s Cure III gil.

[Dante131]

SGE already is a flexi healer

People focus so strongly on the fact that SGE’s GCD’s are shields but beyond that SGE barely has more mitigation than AST (kerechole is up twice as often as CU, holos+panhaima roughly equals neutral sect+sunsign) and is drowning in pure healing

SCH is really the only one that actively weaponises shields but it’s also drowning in free healing, just as WHM is really the only one that feels like a pure healer but its lack of shields acts to its detriment

If you removed pure healing from SCH you could basically right there turn the meta into “anything you want”

i think you mistaken me a bit. with flexi i mean that you have something to swap so one stance for beeing more of a mit / barrier class and one with a disgusting output of pure healing a bit what the astro been earlier

[Supersnow845]

i think you mistaken me a bit. with flexi i mean that you have something to swap so one stance for beeing more of a mit / barrier class and one with a disgusting output of pure healing a bit what the astro been earlier

Sorry i don’t mean I don’t agree with your point I just mean it’s hard to implement a flex system when 3 out of 4 healers just do everything

[Maltothoris]

I feel the same way. Lv78 traits on Soil back in ShB, anybody? I had that moment: “Why is this trait exists on a BARRIER Healer??”

What I found funny was that when it first introduced asylum was still 6 yalm while soil was 8. Then in 5.1, they tried to lessen the advantage of soil by making asylum 8 yalm and making noct collective damage mit 20 seconds and reducing the cd from 90 to 60 seconds.

[Supersnow845]

FRU got cleared with no healers