#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[TBerry]

What do you mean? Since the launch of Dawntrail, and the creation of this thread, multiple content creators, the so called 'influencers' (who SE gives special access to for the sake of generating additional hype around the game's release) have made videos on the topic of the state of Healers in the game. Some of them have said they support the strike's points, some say 'the strike isn't the way to go about it but the points they raise, I've noticed too', some say we're stupid for even trying. But what used to be criticism that was confined to the Forums (and mainly the Healer Role section) has now spilled out of containment. These kind of videos are surely on SE's radar now. With Dawntrail's release, and the lie put to the constant whiteknight retort of 'just wait till launch, there's gonna be so much healing to do that you won't have time to DPS, that'll solve your issues', the dam has burst. And with DT's story being so... divisive, there's really very little that people can use to deflect and defend the state of the role with.

Something needs to change, and SE should be fully aware of that fact by now. It's tragic that it took like... 5 years for the message to hit the mainstream like this, because it means a lot of time has been lost that could have been used to course correct, but we've got to play the hand we're dealt (that saying is now even more apt, since they've now deleted Redraw from AST). Maybe the 'encounter design changes' in 7.2 will be the magic bullet that fixes the Healer Role and everyone lives happily ever after. But I doubt it'd be able to be so all-encompassing, it wouldn't affect any old content (so doing roulettes means a 99% chance of 'the problems come back'), etc. So, waiting game it is

What has Squarfe Enox done?

Also I did one of the Mhach ally raids yesterday and I sustained myself for the most part.
On the first boss I had to remove effects thrice with Warden's Paean.

[Kohashi]

Honestly at this point I’m more leaning towards them even regretting RDM being partially melee because they seem to suck at designing mechanics that allow RDM the flexibility to actually do its melee combo when it needs to

If you really want to gold parse RDM you really want a melee spot but to facilitate that you kinda need a BLM/PCT but then you’d get more benefit out of giving the melee spot to them anyway

xd!!!!!!!!!!!!

Knowing how to manipulate RDM resources and adapt based on whether you have to resolve a mechanic while also being during the 2-minute burst or not is part of the class mastery and difficulty. Not every burst comes with mechanics to do. Otherwise, you can delay your melee combo. SE gave RDM Grand Impact, Prefulgence, and Vice of Thorns, in addition to the already available ranged mechanics.


@ForsakenRoe
Lucky Banjo does however post the methodology how he approaches the entire research and how he obtained the said numbers. Both Census and Banjo simply take the database made available by SE through Lodestone and correlate the data with the help of certain filters.

Census is a lot more basic and from what I see, it's just a bunch of numbers of created characters still present in lodestone but nothing beyond it (which makes sense since it is a census). In any case, the numbers are approximate because some profiles are hidden.

As for WoW healers being incredibly popular, a dozen recent posts and data contradict your claim. Perhaps the healing spec of the Paladin is more popular than other specs but it doesn't mean healers overall are popular. Tigore did comment on it and his estimation and take on it sounded a lot closer to reality and in line with what I have also found than what you say.

I have a very basic understanding of WoW (I never really played it) and I had to do a bit of research on which specs are considered healing (lol) to see if the WoW player base claims/posts held any truth or if it was also skewed by personal perception as it is in some post in FF14 forums.

Other factors skew the pick and progression of playing/ staying a healer in WoW the same way FF14 also has its own additional variables but that wasn't the point of the discussion.

In any case, I am not saying the design cannot improve overall, but saying it needs to change or else, or that this forum represents the majority is just simply grossly out of touch with reality. At the end of the day, it's their game, their vision, you have the privilege of playing this and they don't owe you anything. It's up to you if you want to stay or find something that better aligns with your idea of fun. Every single game that tried to fundamentally change based on a very vocal minority found its fast demise.

[Supersnow845]

Their vision was 1.0

That’s always been the stupidest logic

14 is literally the exact refutation of your following point, if the developers just went “fuck your we made this game play it or leave it” the game would have died in 1.0

[SXTC]

Everyone just goes dps because they know healers and tanks get abused when they fail more then once

[Mimilu]

Everyone just goes dps because they know healers and tanks get abused when they fail more then once

A healer doesn't have to fail at all to get blamed for a DPS or tank's mistake. ꉂ (´∀｀)ʱªʱªʱª

[Kohashi]

Their vision was 1.0

That’s always been the stupidest logic

14 is literally the exact refutation of your following point, if the developers just went “fuck your we made this game play it or leave it” the game would have died in 1.0

The main difference is that the devs listened to what the majority said, and you ain't in that category for sure, even if some might share your sentiment.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

For the love of Hydaelyn, it's Mr.Majoritah's super sikkrit weapon.

"dev listened to what majority said"
also same dev: "VPR can't have noxious gas!; DRG will no longer be jumping!; Stormblood Lily is our pinnacle of healer's design!! Please try before complaining!!!"

Where are these feedbacks even collected...

[ForsakenRoe]

As for WoW healers being incredibly popular, a dozen recent posts and data contradict your claim. Perhaps the healing spec of the Paladin is more popular than other specs but it doesn't mean healers overall are popular. Tigore did comment on it and his estimation and take on it sounded a lot closer to reality and in line with what I have also found than what you say.

Tigore seems to be more on about 'Retail WOW', since he mentions 'Tank/Healer get instant queues'. I was on about Classic WOW, the re-release of older versions of the game (and specifically data about a server for Vanilla), which does not have queues at all, because it requires the players form a party in town and go to the dungeon entrance manually (a relic of older MMO design). And in that, the 'hybrid classes' (ie the ones that have a spec for healing, and a spec for damage) have been mathed out to be 'play this as a Healer, or you are literally griefing, that's how bad your DPS spec is' because Blizzard hadn't really worked out 'class balance' at that point. So if someone picks Shaman/Paladin/Priest/Druid, it's a pretty safe bet that they're intending to play it as a Healer. Thus, the dataset I saw which said that 'Shamans (90%+ of which are going to be played as a Healer) are played as much as Hunter (one of the most popular specs in WOW because you get to have a cute pet ally)' is quite interesting to me, as I'd never have expected such a result to occur

[Supersnow845]

The main difference is that the devs listened to what the majority said, and you ain't in that category for sure, even if some might share your sentiment.

I guess it’s easy to say the majority is always right when you can retroactively go “good feedback is from the majority, bad feedback is from the minority”

It’s like people who decide whether a game is “woke” or not based on if it was successful after the fact

[Aravell]

I guess it’s easy to say the majority is always right when you can retroactively go “good feedback is from the majority, bad feedback is from the minority”

It’s like people who decide whether a game is “woke” or not based on if it was successful after the fact

It's impossible to argue with someone who thinks the decisions made by the devs are always the will of the majority.