#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Capstone]

They should consider having bosses have an invisible add that handles doing the autoattacks, such that when the boss starts a castbar it doesn't stop autoattacking the MT for 5 seconds at a time.

Good old UCOB.

[Maltothoris]

Don't forget the crits too. So far in all my years, nothing more fear into tanks than add phase Twintania with her crit rate and her higher damage during nael quotes.

[Hallarem]

Congratulations to all healers for reaching over 1000 pages. You all did this together <3

With regards, a tank player.

[Maltothoris]

Well now would be tbe time to predict buffs. As of now its about a 2 to 1 ratio of clears in ultimate of ast and sch compared to whm and sge respectively. They prob gonna buff the dots for both of them and I can see them upping some of sge defensives but we will.need to wait for a liveletter for just an inkling of info.

Edit: With thw addendum that in savage as of now, it's the other way around.

[ForsakenRoe]

Well now would be tbe time to predict buffs.

I'm not sure they even can buff anything Healer-wise, as the increase in Item Level, how much substats we can get from gear (specifically Crit), etc, means that even if AST/SCH are a little behind WHM/SGE at the start, they scale up and overtake (hence the 'tradition' of +5 DOT potency for the 'selfish DPS' Healers)

AST/SCH being ahead in Ultimate could be more down to fight design too, such as how more downtimes = more uptime spent 'within raidbuffs', or job design (not potency related), such as how SCH has more access to mitigation (they have Fey Illumination and SGE has no equal, SCH can alternate Deploy-Adlo with Recitation-Succor to have a 'strong barrier' more often, SGE has Zoe-E.Prog at the same rate as Deploy-Adlo but no Recitation-Succor equivalent, etc.), or how AST has Neutral Sect and can apply multiple barriers by using multiple GCDs to apply them (WHM gets only one barrier via Divine Caress), or AST having Collective Unconscious for a 60s CD 10% mitigation tool (with WHM having no equivalent)

[CaptainLagbeard]

Well now would be tbe time to predict buffs. As of now its about a 2 to 1 ratio of clears in ultimate of ast and sch compared to whm and sge respectively. They prob gonna buff the dots for both of them and I can see them upping some of sge defensives but we will.need to wait for a liveletter for just an inkling of info.

Edit: With thw addendum that in savage as of now, it's the other way around.

I would imagine the biggest reason to include AST and SCH is their damage buffs... Making Presence of Mind into a Raidwide and giving SGE maybe a Direct Hit buff similar to SCH's Chain Stratagem would probably put them into roughly similar grounds while letting them keep some of their own personality.


And all the healers deserve some overall buffs to bring up their DPS to similar base level as tanks. They still theoretically wouldn't do as much as DPS as tanks though as Healers are intended have downtime to their DPS as they heal.

[ForsakenRoe]

And all the healers deserve some overall buffs to bring up their DPS to similar base level as tanks. They still theoretically wouldn't do as much as DPS as tanks though as Healers are intended have downtime to their DPS as they heal.

I don't think this matters at all. The issue has never been 'how much damage does Healer do in comparison to Tanks', it's 'by what method/rotation does the Healer do the damage'. Healers have never been dealing equal damage to Tanks, outside of SHB, so it seems to be a clear design decision the whole way through the game's lifespan that Healers should not do as much as Tank. The fact we do as much as we currently do (around 50-60% of a DPS's output) is a miracle in itself, given the next closest competitor in the MMO scene has their healers sitting at around 20-25% of a DPS's output

I just don't like the 'healers should do tank level of damage' line, not because I disagree with it (I don't really care if we do or don't), but rather, I don't want the waters to be muddied with 'we should do more damage' because I don't want SE to be given the free 'escape route' of 'well we buffed the healers and now they do the same damage as tanks, why are they still complaining'. I want them to address the actual issue

[AnotherPerson]

I don't think this matters at all. The issue has never been 'how much damage does Healer do in comparison to Tanks', it's 'by what method/rotation does the Healer do the damage'. Healers have never been dealing equal damage to Tanks, outside of SHB, so it seems to be a clear design decision the whole way through the game's lifespan that Healers should not do as much as Tank. The fact we do as much as we currently do (around 50-60% of a DPS's output) is a miracle in itself, given the next closest competitor in the MMO scene has their healers sitting at around 20-25% of a DPS's output

I just don't like the 'healers should do tank level of damage' line, not because I disagree with it (I don't really care if we do or don't), but rather, I don't want the waters to be muddied with 'we should do more damage' because I don't want SE to be given the free 'escape route' of 'well we buffed the healers and now they do the same damage as tanks, why are they still complaining'. I want them to address the actual issue

It matters when things begin to drag out in MSQ and solo instances but all they do is make healers dps instead of healing, but you're right that it's a far smaller problem -- but it still exists and only tackling one problem doesn't really make the other problems go away either. It's not a big concern as long as the viability and strengths between the rotational choices are competitive enough to change how healers play the game based on what the fight wants at that situation, but it's definitely one pain point in FFXIV if people want to play as a healer and then realize besides party content, every other piece of content makes healing painfully tedious as they're all designed mainly the same way as far as the healing experience goes. I myself started playing healer in other games and I can safely say that I enjoy healing far more in other games than this one, both in breadth of choices + customization and depth of the toolkit. I did not realize how sorely lacking FFXIV was in this regard until other games gave me the feeling that my choices in my build path and playstyle actually matter instead of giving an illusion that it does. Both in terms of doing damage and adjusting to damage.

[Yeol]

https://x.com/Rukaharu_kamo/status/1878422556191175122

[Supersnow845]

The healer that doesn’t have a weakness and got given a CD this expansion that was basically “now I become god” can solo heal, shocked pikachu face

Honestly at this point im so burnt out on trying to get people to care that solo and no healer clears shouldn’t be expected or desired and am instead just angry and why the devs are so content with SCH being so powerful. AND IM A SCH MAIN