#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Supersnow845]

I get your point fine you just don’t really have a point. You have no evidence I don’t know how to play or don’t jive with WHM other than you like it and I don’t so I obviously don’t know how to play it (even though I never accused either of you of not knowing how to play AST when you didn’t jive with it) and the only point you have that it’s not underpowered is it kinda had a niche in kefka style fights which we haven’t had in 7 years

As the game stands right now WHM really doesn’t have a gameplay niche, the fact it doesn’t have a niche makes it feel week in my eyes because whenever I play it all I feel is I could be achieving more on any other healer which is why it feels like a void of a class pick

If a class is badly designed to the modern games need its badly designed, just because it was kinda sorta good 10 years ago is meaningless

[Tint]

As the game stands right now WHM really doesn’t have a gameplay niche, the fact it doesn’t have a niche makes it feel week in my eyes because whenever I play it all I feel is I could be achieving more on any other healer which is why it feels like a void of a class pick

If a class is badly designed to the modern games need its badly designed, just because it was kinda sorta good 10 years ago is meaningless

That's like saying WAR is good designed because it can replace the healer role.

The other healers stepping on WHMs toes is not WHMs fault. Why is AST the healer with the party buffs AND the mitigation tools while WHM has nothing? AST is the real problem here, not WHM.

But since the Lilly rework in ShB WHM at least as a gameplay niche and does not simply play like an AST without buffs. There is a place for WHM, it is not a "void of a class pick", even if it's not a meta job.

[Supersnow845]

That's like saying WAR is good designed because it can replace the healer role.

The other healers stepping on WHMs toes is not WHMs fault. Why is AST the healer with the party buffs AND the mitigation tools while WHM has nothing? AST is the real problem here, not WHM.

But since the Lilly rework in ShB WHM at least as a gameplay niche and does not simply play like an AST without buffs. There is a place for WHM, it is not a "void of a class pick", even if it's not a meta job.

I mean SCH can also do WHM but better (seraphism anyone), and SGE has more HPS throughput than any other healer

When you have 3 healers that have a rough niche and one that doesn’t it’s hard to call “everyone else” the problem

[AmiableApkallu]

The other healers stepping on WHMs toes is not WHMs fault. Why is AST the healer with the party buffs AND the mitigation tools while WHM has nothing? AST is the real problem here, not WHM.

If the criticism is "while WHM has nothing," then the solution is to give WHM something, not to blame and take away from all the other healers.

My own spitball take of the day: Give WHM a lily spender for an AoE shield. Decouple Divine Caress from Temperance. Add an AoE that doesn't include Stun as a side-effect. Voilà! We've addressed WHM's glaring (pun-intended) lack of AoE mitigations and shields, and given Holy's Stun an opportunity to be used strategically on trash mobs.

Because…

WHM have the most raw and direct healing power potential of all the healer

is all good and well, but a poor identity or niche, because in Duty Finder, two Shield Healers paired together have to be able to pump out enough pure heals to deal with something like the opening of Seat of Sacrifice. Which is to say, thanks to Duty Finder, the Shield Healers have to be able to step on WHM's supposed niche of "raw and direct healing power". (And that's why the whole Pure/Shield split is silly, but that's a topic unto itself…)