Do you think that Picto needs a nerf?

[Supersnow845]

Wasn't that because they added hundreds of potencies to the other melees?

Yep

RPR not dominating all of EW was fixed in exactly the same way people are angry they are using to fix PCT specifically because that correction is being overshadowed by FRU which specifically favours PCT’s design

[Wayfinder3]

Yep

RPR not dominating all of EW was fixed in exactly the same way people are angry they are using to fix PCT specifically because that correction is being overshadowed by FRU which specifically favours PCT’s design

yep! not to mention RPR basically underperformed relative to other melee for the rest of the expac being mediocre especially by anabesios

[MrJPtheAssassin]

yep! not to mention RPR basically underperformed relative to other melee for the rest of the expac being mediocre especially by anabesios

I main rpr in EW and I have to agree...it wasn't very fun knowing I was basically playing the weakest melee. Like it was ok and I didn't really have any other choice since smn was gutted in EW and I didn't like any of the other melee. Plus I believe it wasn't great in TOP or DSR. In fact, I remember ppl saying that RPR was really unfun in EW Ultimates bc of the downtime and it sufferd more from the downtime than other melee jobs.

[Realfoxy]

I main rpr in EW and I have to agree...it wasn't very fun knowing I was basically playing the weakest melee. Like it was ok and I didn't really have any other choice since smn was gutted in EW and I didn't like any of the other melee. Plus I believe it wasn't great in TOP or DSR. In fact, I remember ppl saying that RPR was really unfun in EW Ultimates bc of the downtime and it sufferd more from the downtime than other melee jobs.

RPR being a gauge building job is naturally a bit disadvantaged in ultimates. However, being a gauge building job, its strength means that if you're in a competent group you can hold A LOT of resources going into the final phase and dump everything into meeting that final DPS check - which is the only one that really matters. So while it wasn't considered a top meta pick, it could still definitely pull its weight.

You can check the historical data on TOP if you don't believe me.

[MrJPtheAssassin]

RPR being a gauge building job is naturally a bit disadvantaged in ultimates. However, being a gauge building job, its strength means that if you're in a competent group you can hold A LOT of resources going into the final phase and dump everything into meeting that final DPS check - which is the only one that really matters. So while it wasn't considered a top meta pick, it could still definitely pull its weight.

You can check the historical data on TOP if you don't believe me.

I believe you. I only going by what others have said in the pass and pretty much every I talked to who played rpr in dsr and top have said the same thing. The job is really unfun in those fights and you better off playing something else. That what I based my opinion on, how fun a job is in content. This is off-topic so Im not going to go to much more into it.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Yep

RPR not dominating all of EW was fixed in exactly the same way people are angry they are using to fix PCT specifically because that correction is being overshadowed by FRU which specifically favours PCT’s design

Are we really comparing a job that favours full uptime (Reaper) vs a job that favours downtimes (Pictomancer) and still is at a genuinely competitive position with most high DPS jobs in full uptime? Reaper's damage was fading the moment any form of downtime was introduced, which DSR provided. Pictomancer is the reverse here, it actually escalates the damage numbers from that fight design while already being in a good position in full uptime, thus going massively ahead.

Should we really just buff all other DPS jobs to match Pictomancer's power level to move it into a position where it is more balanced, just so we can avoid nerfs? Because the difference in doing so is not the same as we had back with Reaper.

[Supersnow845]

Are we really comparing a job that favours full uptime (Reaper) vs a job that favours downtimes (Pictomancer) and still is at a genuinely competitive position with most high DPS jobs in full uptime? Reaper's damage was fading the moment any form of downtime was introduced, which DSR provided. Pictomancer is the reverse here, it actually escalates the damage numbers from that fight design while already being in a good position in full uptime, thus going massively ahead.

Should we really just buff all other DPS jobs to match Pictomancer's power level to move it into a position where it is more balanced, just so we can avoid nerfs? Because the difference in doing so is not the same as we had back with Reaper.

I never said we shouldn’t nerf PCT I said people are losing their minds that the devs are trying to fix PCT in the same way that they fixed RPR and that the only difference is that for PCT FRU hides this balance because it is favoured in FRU