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    Lythia Norvaine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
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    I would have thought that you of all people ought to be able have some empathy on this point, because you yourself very recently gave up the healer role because of dissatisfaction around role balancing. You were lucky in that you found a job and role that still clicked with you. Not everyone is so fortunate. I don't understand your stance on this at all.

    What you're describing is not a niche. It's complete dominance. You can still have your opportunities to shine without it. If jobs are well balanced, burst and continuous uptime jobs can both have their time in the spotlight. This isn't at all difficult to achieve. But everyone needs to be willing to share, and we need a job balance team that is willing and capable of facilitating it.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyth View Post
    Surely you of all people ought to be able demonstrate some empathy on this point, because you yourself very recently gave up the healer role because of dissatisfaction around role balancing. You were lucky in that you found a job and role that still clicked with you. Not everyone is so fortunate. I don't understand your stance on this at all.

    What you're describing is not a niche. It's complete dominance. You can still have your opportunities to shine without it. If jobs are well balanced, burst and continuous uptime jobs can both have their time in the spotlight. This isn't at all difficult to achieve. But everyone needs to be willing to share, and we need a job balance team that is willing and capable of facilitating it.
    And you won’t hear me opposing everyone having a niche, which is why I don’t oppose PCT nerfs (like do I need to put this in my signature or something). Hell my entire problem with the healers is they are so homogenised the only niche any healer has is SCH just being better than everyone perpetually which you’ll notice I also oppose. PCT’s niche is ultimate (well high downtime), if it isn’t first in ultimate it’s not a niche. I never said it has to be as far ahead in ultimate, that’s why I regularly said 1-2% ahead of DRG. That niche can be narrowed if more jobs get niches but right now it’s the only job with a niche

    My point is that the idea of selfish DPS being “I’m either first or I’m last” is a flawed balancing design because it regularly leads to BLM being terrible because as soon as it’s not first it’s by definition terrible. By the same definition PCT’s niche shouldn’t be “I’m better than everyone at everything and way better than everyone at ultimates”

    The above discussion isn’t me saying “PCT doesn’t need to be nerfed in savage because it’s not ahead” I just like to argue so it’s more a casual discussion with the anendum it doesn’t change my stance PCT needs nerfs
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 12-19-2024 at 08:20 PM.
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess