7.1 Dragoon Changes Complaints

[VerySadDRG]

I think we're all safe to ignore the troll and get back to the important discussion of wanting classes that are actually engaging to play.

Yeah, there's nothing of value that person can provide to this conversation. What a waste of time.

[HeavenlyArmed]

Anyway, an idea that finally clicked for me as a better option than this is, as many people have suggested, working Life Surge into being a trait rather than a button. I was struggling with it before due to not being able to think of a way to cleanly adapt it, but it's really not that difficult to do in a way that would likely not even change the balance of the job very much. Just make Life Surge a part of Lance Charge, so during Lance Charge any time you use Full Thrust, Heaven's Thrust, and upon the upgrade at level 88, Drakesbane, the skill automaitcally crits. Doing this frees up those button presses allowing the return of the triple Nastrond, and makes burst windows still feel satisfying from a damage perspective due to the guaranteed crits.

[HikariKurosawa]

Actually bc of SHB, they actually had the most popular MMO at the time going into EW and their yearly operating income was higher for the fiscal year than what they are on track to do this year, by a lot actually. Part of that is other flops in HD games now, but back then they specifically called out EW as delivering huge results for the entire company's bottom line.

Surely had nothing to do with the blizzard fiasco and asmongold influencing a large portion of WoW's playerbase to try out FFXIV.

[VerySadDRG]

Just make Life Surge a part of Lance Charge, so during Lance Charge any time you use Full Thrust, Heaven's Thrust, and upon the upgrade at level 88, Drakesbane, the skill automaitcally crits.

Life Surge provides at least a little bit of (quite situational) decision making, so I wouldn't want it to be gone. But if it is either LS or Nastrond and there's no way to keep them as in pre-7.1, then getting rid of LS is a better option.

[Ajisaii]

Stop replying to the monkey

[noumen0nn]

Coming here to voice my support, this is one of the worst job changes to take place since I started playing in Shadowbringers. What is the job design team thinking? Is nothing sacred? If you thought the job was too busy, maybe you shouldn't have given it two boring, generic followups to its iconic jumps, and instead focused on iterating on its gameplay in any meaningful way. I haven't even finished leveling the job to 100 because I already disliked the removal of the eye gauge and the changing of Geirskogul to a 60 second button, but now I know not to bother at all. It already feels terrible to play at level 90, with practically nothing going on in the burst. Get it together, revert this change, and please actually think before making a decision like this next time.

[KaliG]

Lower level dragoon is a separate issue and has nothing to do with high level dragoon.

Good to know you realize your own opinion is irrelevant Dragoon Lv 92.

[Aco505]

Life Surge provides at least a little bit of (quite situational) decision making, so I wouldn't want it to be gone. But if it is either LS or Nastrond and there's no way to keep them as in pre-7.1, then getting rid of LS is a better option.

They should just rework Life Surge into a weaponskill with charges with a similar functionality. That way, we keep some decision making and free some weave slots. I still want more oGCDs though.

Mirage Dive should also provide a scale when used.

[Aco505]

I just posted in the JP subforum thread providing the following feedback:

- Returning NAS to 3 charges

- Reworking Life Surge into a weaponskill with similar functions and, perhaps, giving it the ability to provide a scale

- Mirage Dive should give a scale when used

- Exploring a more unique way of ranged uptime tools by making our weaponskills have 5-6 yalms either permanently or temporarily through a buff.

- Since one of the core features of DRG are its oGCDs, not to reduce them anymore and instead to actually increase them

Feel free to like it there, too, if you agree.

[ateliergrimoire]

Just adding my voice to this. I've played DRG as my main since Stormblood, but I hated the 7.0 changes so much I dropped the class. Gutting it even further breaks my heart. I hate that it feels like melee classes are being smoothed down to be as palatable as possible to people who don't play them; I felt that there used to be a scale of "intensity" between the melee classes that's just being lost more and more as time goes on. I played melee because I loved the challenge of managing my rotation against the fights. I barely feel that joy anymore with melee classes, and definitely not in DRG's current state