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    Quote Originally Posted by VerySadDRG View Post
    Ah, the good old "but it makes money" argument, used when you have nothing else to say. Tell me this then, how exactly did Square made money in ShB and EW, when DRG had, y'know, actual job mechanics and was FUN to play?
    They made less money than they do now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    They made less money than they do now.
    So all of those money are made just because of DRG changes? Really doubt that. Also wonder how much Square is making thanks to BLM rn, but I guess its sorry state is also what "capitalism" wants.

    And looking at what people say in this thread, they are about to lose some customers, lmao.
    But go on, encourage bad job design with "muh capitalism" logic, at least it is hilarious to read.
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    Aw mane

    I'm in the same boat as a lot of others here, made this purely to at least try to voice my concerns that MIGHT be heard.

    Out of all the options (mainly Life Surge and Mirage Dive) why Nastrond? The lvl 70 capstone skill that just feels good to press? Typing this inbetween Prae cutscenes levelling Ninja because i'll probably swap to it for DSR prog since it just feels awful to play after what we used to have.

    Genuinely mind boggling change that has to get reverted, right? As others have stated aswell, if people want a less busy job, play a less busy job?? You have so many absolutely boring options, why target the jobs that actually require a teeny tiny bit of thought to properly execute? Jesus christ man
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hartzbefehl View Post
    Out of all the options (mainly Life Surge and Mirage Dive) why Nastrond?

    why target the jobs that actually require a teeny tiny bit of thought to properly execute?
    The irony of this complaint.... lol. You wanted them to target life surge and mirage dive, the primary two aspects of the job that require thought.... then complain about them removing nastrond and suggest that it would have taken more thought to press nastrond 3 times per burst in lieu of managing mirage dive and life surge optimally?

    Like............ It's very disingenuous. Almost as disingenuous as the people calling me a troll.
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    Just voicing my opinion, with others who are unhappy with the change.

    It is not good, the job feels very empty now, especially during odd minutes.

    In general the Dawntrail changes were abysmal, realistically not giving anything interesting to DRG aside from Winged Glide, level 100 was basically the same as 90 during Endwalker and now level 90 even before the 7.1 change was boring and now even more so.

    Horrendous timing as well, removing fun from a already suffering job due to poor handling by the designer team who for whatever reason did not go through with the hinted at ((((rework))))) 2 weeks before an ultimate raid.

    So DRG now will only become worse or get reworked entirely next expansion.

    Worst part is, it is likely to be even worse or if they don't go through with the rework we will simply gain a different flavor of buttons to what we already had like giving us 2 Nastrond casts instead of 1.

    For the most part I don't understand why DRG was touched during 7.1 in the first place and why was Nastrond changed instead of Life Surge or Mirage Dive.

    While I am personally not a fan of Mirage Dive as it doesn't serve a real purpose as it did and is just there as a reminder/leftover ability, it does serve as a fun optimization for those that want to go for it as awkward as it might be.

    However, why is Life Surge in the game? There is no way someone who actually levelled the job to 100 in the last month would consider removing Nastrond over Life Surge.

    Really hoping DRG gets a change in 7.11 for Eden, as unlikely as that is.

    TL;DR Job designer team is lost and will continue to make DRG worse at this rate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikariKurosawa View Post
    The irony of this complaint.... lol. You wanted them to target life surge and mirage dive, the primary two aspects of the job that require thought.... then complain about them removing nastrond and suggest that it would have taken more thought to press nastrond 3 times per burst in lieu of managing mirage dive and life surge optimally?

    Like............ It's very disingenuous. Almost as disingenuous as the people calling me a troll.
    Apart from double mirage dive which is painfully boring I don't see how it takes any thought at all, life surge on the other hand actually does require a thinking brain to press optimally since boss fights aren't striking dummies and shouldn't be removed.

    Also you are a troll but I took the bait because I like life surge :^)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajisaii View Post
    Apart from double mirage dive which is painfully boring I don't see how it takes any thought at all, life surge on the other hand actually does require a thinking brain to press optimally since boss fights aren't striking dummies and shouldn't be removed.

    Also you are a troll but I took the bait because I like life surge :^)
    So you agree with what I am saying, yet I am a troll lol. What does that make you?
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