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  1. #8991
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Maltothoris View Post
    Okay so not sure how many folks saw this but [...] Now granted this prob hurt smn more than it did sch but still. Still it's hilarious that this got overlooked.
    Seen that before and gleaned it a little bit further. There's actually the bug report made going as far back to DT early launch date, but was unfortunately moved to "Insufficient Information" subforum because poster probably did not wrote the report in the very specific format SE wants to read. Source here.

    Nevermind the piss poor QC from their part, few things that really rubs me the wrong way:
    1. Do they not have any humans reading those bug reports? Smh.
    2. The 2nd to last paragraph in the lodestone notification is literally them admitting to their own mistakes but also "Uh yeah we're not gonna fix our own mistake asap we'll just do that in one go at next major patch cycle mkay?", which is like what, at least 1 and a half month away from today?? That's crazy lol.

    Squeenix and their glacial pace at fixing issues.
    Squeenix and gaslighting players into thinking that fixes are 'next new content/feature'.

    Pick your poison.


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    EDIT: Also happy 900th page loool
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 09-07-2024 at 04:50 AM.

  2. #8992
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    Ketojan's Avatar
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    Just want to chime in that over my time progging savage on pf these last 3 weeks, all parties struggle to find healers or the occasional physical ranged dps. With the exception of parties started by healer duos (three in this last week strangely enough). I feel I am being baited every time someone on the team asks “so healers really are scarce huh?” and someone mentions healer strike. I know people love to come in here to say their same bit of “so is the healer strike real and working? I still see them and my queue is blah blah blah” Yes, it seems to be effecting my time more than previous expansions, maybe because when I’m in these parties I’m not switching to healer to make it fill faster anymore. I hope this reaches 1k pages and I hope it is noticed by then by devs
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  3. #8993
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    Ritsugamesh's Avatar
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    Ritsu Susanowa
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    Phoenix
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    Scholar Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Seen that before and gleaned it a little bit further. There's actually the bug report made going as far back to DT early launch date, but was unfortunately moved to "Insufficient Information" subforum because poster probably did not wrote the report in the very specific format SE wants to read. Source here.

    Nevermind the piss poor QC from their part, few things that really rubs me the wrong way:
    1. Do they not have any humans reading those bug reports? Smh.
    2. The 2nd to last paragraph in the lodestone notification is literally them admitting to their own mistakes but also "Uh yeah we're not gonna fix our own mistake asap we'll just do that in one go at next major patch cycle mkay?", which is like what, at least 1 and a half month away from today?? That's crazy lol.

    Squeenix and their glacial pace at fixing issues.
    Squeenix and gaslighting players into thinking that fixes are 'next new content/feature'.

    Pick your poison.


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    EDIT: Also happy 900th page loool
    Meanwhile some ERPers complain their nose bridge is 2 pixels bigger on the left side and we get the most in-depth breakdown of how noses are affected by the passage of time relative to the fluctuations of aether in the timezone you're playing right from Yoshi-P himself.

    It's insane how out in the cold the job feedback is in this game. They either literally don't care or they just pray it'll go away. Neither I'm too pleased with.
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  4. #8994
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    Hyperia's Avatar
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ketojan View Post
    Just want to chime in that over my time progging savage on pf these last 3 weeks, all parties struggle to find healers or the occasional physical ranged dps. With the exception of parties started by healer duos (three in this last week strangely enough). I feel I am being baited every time someone on the team asks “so healers really are scarce huh?” and someone mentions healer strike. I know people love to come in here to say their same bit of “so is the healer strike real and working? I still see them and my queue is blah blah blah” Yes, it seems to be effecting my time more than previous expansions, maybe because when I’m in these parties I’m not switching to healer to make it fill faster anymore. I hope this reaches 1k pages and I hope it is noticed by then by devs
    Speaking as a life long WHM, playing since 2.0.

    Healers have been demoralized over the last two expansions with back to back gut punches of “we are not needed” because of healerless clears of dungeons and savage.

    So where are the healers? Some quit, some joined statics who make them feel welcome and others are on a break due to real life issues. I’m on the real life break due to having my baby boy so I am super casual at best.

    Personally, I always preferred statics vs party finders. While it’s true that there are some good PFs out there, I always went with a static because it’s a more caring environment that is more tolerant of my mistakes.

    I don’t have a perfect memory or lightning reflexes so it takes me time to learn a fight and many PFs don’t like or accept that. I have found that quite a few PFs are get gud or get lost.

    I know that some healers are not as caring as others but many are, and that is why we are healers and not DPS. By its very nature, PFs in general do not lend itself to being nice, it’s more competitive and harsh.

    For me, it’s just not my thing.

    P.S. These are my opinions & feelings and are not meant to represent the healer community as a whole.
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  5. #8995
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritsugamesh View Post
    Meanwhile some ERPers complain their nose bridge is 2 pixels bigger on the left side and we get the most in-depth breakdown of how noses are affected by the passage of time relative to the fluctuations of aether in the timezone you're playing right from Yoshi-P himself.

    It's insane how out in the cold the job feedback is in this game. They either literally don't care or they just pray it'll go away. Neither I'm too pleased with.
    As one of those who had actually spent good amount of energy to rant and complain about the enforced plastic surgery character model upgrade and have given up hope (and thus forever signed myself to forbidden arts that should not be named), I'd say their response to that front has been more or less out of touch as well. More smokescreens than talking about the actual issue(s). It's like trying to wait for the mass to simmer down and hopefully not as much yelling rodeo still around by the time they address it again (or hopefully never have to i.e. 'Kaiten' who? lol).
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  6. #8996
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Seen that before and gleaned it a little bit further. There's actually the bug report made going as far back to DT early launch date, but was unfortunately moved to "Insufficient Information" subforum because poster probably did not wrote the report in the very specific format SE wants to read. Source here.

    Nevermind the piss poor QC from their part, few things that really rubs me the wrong way:
    1. Do they not have any humans reading those bug reports? Smh.
    2. The 2nd to last paragraph in the lodestone notification is literally them admitting to their own mistakes but also "Uh yeah we're not gonna fix our own mistake asap we'll just do that in one go at next major patch cycle mkay?", which is like what, at least 1 and a half month away from today?? That's crazy lol.

    Squeenix and their glacial pace at fixing issues.
    Squeenix and gaslighting players into thinking that fixes are 'next new content/feature'.

    Pick your poison.


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    EDIT: Also happy 900th page loool
    I was about to say, was the trait not working when it was first introduced in EW or did something get messed up in DT?
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  7. #8997
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maltothoris View Post
    I was about to say, was the trait not working when it was first introduced in EW or did something get messed up in DT?
    People went back and checked footage for SCH and the trait worked in EW so something in DT broke it

    The SMN trait is a DT trait
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  8. #8998
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    so I've got a question for all the other former Healer mains who went to tank.
    I'm trying to decide on my tank main, and it's a lot harder to decide than I thought.
    I like the mitigation of one, but not the damage rotation. For another it's the exact opposite. I like the rotation, but not the mitigation. It's not even about how effective the mitigation or the damage is. It's just purely based on feel.
    Has anyone else been in a similar situation? do you learn to overlook one aspect over time?
    Should I just play warrior and stop thinking about things (even mechanics)?

    It wasn't this hard choosing a healer main. I like using a book as a weapon, and the gameplay of combining your skills to prevent damage before it happens, so Scholar's the one for me. (before level 70 where you get Excog, and use pretty much nothing else outside of savage)
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  9. #8999
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    Quote Originally Posted by Post View Post
    The case of level 60 dungeons not needing healers is more a symptom of ilvl caps/more HP from accessories and general potency buffs of baseline actions over the years to be fair. There's the occasional job like WAR having access to the drastically different and empowered Raw Intuition at that level, but by and large it'd be closer to HW if they didn't let player's power run as unchecked by putting on tighter gear restriction, removing direct hit functionality until 61 and having one of those level 84/94 traits that increases all your basic action potencies for every job once per expansion level range.

    It'd also help solve the problem of too trivial battle content for new players in perpetuity somewhat.
    I'll respectfully disagree here. The problem was that any damage except for a stack marker was completely avoidable. Even with minimum item lvl you could have dodged every other instance of damage.
    I know that ilvl will always trivialise low lvl dungeons to a degree but I still think you could add more forced hits or raidwides to counter the problem at least a little bit, even if it means healers having to hardcast their (aoe) heal a bit more often at those levels.
    The individual hits don't need to be hard so new healers could still fix them easily. But the accumulated damage of several raidwides/forced hits should endanger a party at some point if the damage isn't taken care of.
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    Last edited by Loggos; 09-07-2024 at 08:49 PM.

  10. #9000
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    Quote Originally Posted by GartredZW View Post
    so I've got a question for all the other former Healer mains who went to tank[...]
    Personally while I dabble into tanks sometimes, I never really transition into an actual tank main nor bring them anywhere outside dungeons (not even 8/24 mans because it's even more boring than dungeon pulls). I do find myself leaning toward the two extremes: DRK and WAR.

    DRK has two real fun button: TBN and Abyssal Drain. WAR is to emulate the meme 'melee healer', but frankly I wouldn't play it as much if it weren't for some NPC from Shadowbringers and really loving their aesthetics.

    I don't find much joy from PLD and GNB. The only time I can feel the 'happy juice' in my head as the former is when I get to use Clemency to pull off aggro from whoever pulling too far ahead lol.
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