Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
I prefer having the healing and DPS completely seperated because then you can balance them individually and you won't have the endgame version of freecure procers being sacred sight procers.
I mean, It can be done in a smart way. The lilly system is a rather effective system to make gcd healing, through lilies, dps neutral/positive. You basically get both.
If anything when there are bosses downtime it allows you get gain gcd usage by throwing lilies while the boss isn’t here (which usually isn’t strictly speaking a throw since there are, usually, damage during those times so…)
SCH ED is a bit more problematic as, although the loss is very tiny, you still have that choice between “healing” vs “tiny teeny bit of dmg”. It a bit like an AST who has to choose between using Earthly Star on CD or to delay it 20-30s to heal an upcoming mechanic… by delaying it too often you end up loosing a star, thus DPS. However, unlike SCH, I feel AST can always find a way to use ES on CD to benefit both from the healing and damage whereas a SCH cannot unless drastically overgearing the fight. (No Indom, SS or Excog and deploy would make for a rather weak healer in a healing intensive scenario)
So far, to me, SCH Is the one being the worst off while at the same time having the biggest avenue for dps optimization… You can’t have both obviously.
Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
scholar is the easiest and most effective healer in the game
if you think current scholar is hard to manage you are just need to stop playing summoner and play harder job.
Effective is debatable, but sure.
Easier? In what world is SCH easier than WHM or SGE?
No other healer lock out some of its kit by using some other skills.
No other healer have to actively choose between dmg and healing
Sage Kerachole is better or easier than handle than Scholar Sacred Soil in most scenarios.
Deployement tactic / Seraph are also trickier to use than Holos/Panhaima
Sage can literally shield while moving.
Sage has instant damaging gcd which aren’t a dps loss
Like, in what world can you believe that SCH is the easiest healer to play…
And I play AST, and I don’t see what SMN has anything to do with the topic.
Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
I am with the ocean that healers must stay healers and have little to manage other than party hp..
but how that can be needs to be special.
as I mentioned that scholar must focus being a healer with less DPS but their healing depends on DPS.
Then you make no sens, because your proposition is a healer that requires to actively dps to use any form of healing. Every single action you’ve presented require poison stack which require you to DPS in order to consume. What you proposed is the antithesis of a healer only healing. Your proposition cannot heal without smashing miasma.
Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
Someone: “Scholars are masters of poisons, toxins and plagues”
Another guy: “How did they get wiped out?”
Someone: “Poisons, toxins and plagues”

I still feel like this is focusing on something that wasn’t meant to be a part of the job in the first place lol. Scholars are meant to be masters of aetherial manipulation, I.e construction (into fairies) and deconstruction (Biolysis deconstructing corporeal aether).
I’d rather see them continue with that rather than stuffing in some extraneous ‘plague master’ identity that kinda goes against what we know of the job lol.
Spot on