#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Aravell]

I don’t understand.

Folks are just not playing a role that they no longer find fun. Now you’re left with the bads (mostly) & suddenly fed up with the healerstrike? If any, it just put more spotlights on the bad apples of the role now that more and more veterans are jumping ship. But suddenly it’s the veteran’s fault?

Because literally anytime you get a subpar healer is definitely the fault of those darn healer strikers who aren't even playing healers right now.

The strike is just a very easy thing to blame, I guess, even if blaming it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

God I feel like Im talking to renrathas again

Oh come now, there's not nearly as much text.

[Sharawiwi]

Do you have any of these magical screenshots. Because all you have done in the last like 4 weeks on this thread is go “your anecdotes are meaningless and your data is flawed……but also here is my anecdote that is totally meaningful and is why I represent the silent majority that agrees with me”

God I feel like Im talking to renrathas again

Everyone should /ignore Striker, he's just a big talking pile of crap, the thread is way more bearable when you don't have to read his nonsensical stupidity every 50 pages.

Just wanted to post that people are refusing to heal and tanks won't voke when I'm tanking. I admit I'm not that good but I try to mitigate as best as I can and it's getting really annoying when I'm trying to get the mounts. I feel like I'm being blocked or people are gatekeeping certain classes at this point so I'm verry much fed up with this healer strike. FYI I have played the healer classes and at no point have I said welp I'm going to que for it and just dps.

I will summarize it for you (and it will serve as a reference for future complainers) :
-1 : SE dumbs down healer jobs for 5 consecutive years, up to DT where the 4 jobs are carbon copies of each other, are extremely easy to play and have 0 room for skill expression and optimisation. And, in the same motion, they make healers irrelevant for any content outside ultimate/critrerion (M4S no healers no lb no gcd heal clear week 2).

-2 : Veteran healers bail out of a role that nowaday brings them nothing at all, either with the healer strike, or simply silently quitting (because tbh the state of the game is unbearable, I've left, many have left, and amongst the players I know still on the game, they are all using trusts and never DF anymore).

-3 : In DT, the vast majority of healers you'll encounter will be either/both lazy incompetent players, because by designing a job for single brain cell amoeba SE attracted a certain type of players to the role, or off role players (mainly DPS) who only see healers as a "fast queue without responsibilities".

It's both SE and these people who are the problem, not the healer strike, which only aimed to draw attention to this massive issue (which it did spectacularly well).


P. S. : Unless you're playing DRK, you mentionned farming mounts so I can assume you're talking about current EX and Savage, either pick up healer so healing isn't a problem or get better at tanking, because you litteraly don't need help to tank the current content. And if you have a TB swap and your cotank isn't voking ? Just invuln lmao, it's not like you need it anywhere else.

[Kes13a]

Just wanted to post that people are refusing to heal and tanks won't voke when I'm tanking. I admit I'm not that good but I try to mitigate as best as I can and it's getting really annoying when I'm trying to get the mounts. I feel like I'm being blocked or people are gatekeeping certain classes at this point so I'm verry much fed up with this healer strike. FYI I have played the healer classes and at no point have I said welp I'm going to que for it and just dps.

this question would be better asked of Striker44 actually (no relation to any strikers) who has the very pulse of the majority in their hands. They do not wish to add any skill to the game for healers so everyone and anyone can queue up as a healer and, well, not heal. As for tanking, I cant speak for him, but you might also ask him if he is against tanks needing to learn things as well. So yes, please ask of Striker44 why a general majority of the people he represents in full voice.... refuse or unable to do their job.

on a side note... you may not queue up as a healer to dps... but.. what are you mainly doing? anyway.. the people supporting the strike are generally NOT doing group content as healers. sorry you experienced that, but if you do, report it. but I doubt it was someone supporting changes to healers.

[Connor]

Pretty sure the reason there are so many bad healers now is because they see the countless posts about ‘healer dps’ ‘healers can’t ever heal’ ‘dps is all they can ever have’ ‘it’s all oGCD heals’ ‘never use a gcd or you will be kicked blacklisted banned’, completely misunderstand what it actually means and that people are talking about design philosophy and not literal practice, then go into playing healer thinking they literally do not need to use a single healing spell or ability the entire fight so long as they maintain acceptable dps uptime. I mean, look how angry so many healers get at the idea of having to use an actual gcd spell…

[Alice_Rivers]

I'd say most bad players don't even know the forum exists, let alone reads what's here.

[Connor]

I'd say most bad players don't even know the forum exists, let alone reads what's here.

Who’s to say it’s just the forum? People’s attitudes and discussions around healers mostly follow the same route regardless of whether they’re here, on Reddit, X or whatever else in my entirely anecdotal experience. Cursed Facebook maybe lol.

[Kacho_Nacho]

Pretty sure the reason there are so many bad healers now is because they see the countless posts about ‘healer dps’ ‘healers can’t ever heal’ ‘dps is all they can ever have’ ‘it’s all oGCD heals’ ‘never use a gcd or you will be kicked blacklisted banned’, completely misunderstand what it actually means and that people are talking about design philosophy and not literal practice, then go into playing healer thinking they literally do not need to use a single healing spell or ability the entire fight so long as they maintain acceptable dps uptime. I mean, look how angry so many healers get at the idea of having to use an actual gcd spell…*emphasis mine*

It's crazy, isn't it? Players have to understand it's okay to use their gcd heals too. They may lose the damage from one glare or two; but, a healer is there to keep the party alive. So, if they don't have any ogcd heals, and the tank's health is dipping dangerously low, cast the damn Cure IIs already!

Only the most clueless individual will attempt to kick them for it, and if they are kicked, so what? They'll get another group in less than 5 minutes.

[Connor]

It's crazy, isn't it? Players have to understand it's okay to use their gcd heals too. They may lose the damage from one glare or two; but, a healer is there to keep the party alive. So, if they don't have any ogcd heals, and the tank's health is dipping dangerously low, cast the damn Cure IIs already!

Only the most clueless individual will attempt to kick them for it, and if they are kicked, so what? They'll get another group in less than 5 minutes.

I mean, it’s basically just an unfortunate game of ‘Chinese whispers’ that’s went from ‘healers need more dps/variety because of how encounters work’ all the way downhill to ‘healers literally don’t need to heal’. It’s probably compounded by all the talk of tanks being ‘invincible super healers’; which, I mean, they basically are lol. But by the time that filters down, the added caveat of ‘when played properly/with appropriate gear/etc’. End result being a certain group of people queuing as healer thinking the tank is griefing them for asking for healing lol.

And, I’m not suggesting it’s a specific thing like ‘omg healer strike did this’ lol, it’s been a thing of varying magnitudes throughout the game’s history. Whether it’s healers refusing to gcd heal in current times or healers refusing to turn on/off cleric stance in ARR (yes Lustrate is % based but that doesn’t help if you have no Aetherflow lol). And frankly I think SE ‘fixing healing’ and basically making it less of a joke is the only way they’ll really resolve it.

So long as the healer role has as many issues as as it does, it’s always going to end up attracting people with a completely distorted view of what healer is and how those issues actually relate to the role in a wider context

[Wolf_Necros]

this question would be better asked of Striker44 actually (no relation to any strikers) who has the very pulse of the majority in their hands. They do not wish to add any skill to the game for healers so everyone and anyone can queue up as a healer and, well, not heal. As for tanking, I cant speak for him, but you might also ask him if he is against tanks needing to learn things as well. So yes, please ask of Striker44 why a general majority of the people he represents in full voice.... refuse or unable to do their job.

on a side note... you may not queue up as a healer to dps... but.. what are you mainly doing? anyway.. the people supporting the strike are generally NOT doing group content as healers. sorry you experienced that, but if you do, report it. but I doubt it was someone supporting changes to healers.

Who are you even talking about????

[Shurrikhan]

this question would be better asked of Striker44 actually

Who are you even talking about????

I'm going to hazard a guess that it's Striker44. As in the poster by that name on this thread.