Quote Originally Posted by Alice_Rivers View Post
I know there are those who advocate for the removal of ALL healing from every job that isn't a healer, I consider that an extreme position, others have pointed out that if dps couldn't heal at all then pretty much every solo duty would have to be retested to ensure they could finish it. So I do think there is room for a point where a party that actively uses what limited heals it has should be able to do a bit, like surviving a raidwide and/or a stack so that if you play well you might beat 15-20% of a boss absent a healer depending on how mechs and raidwide damage play out. That way it's not overly punishing if everyone's doing well but the healer slips up, though if a healer really can't do that much (especially at level 80+) kicking them should be the team's right.
I think it's fine for DPS to have enough healing to short-term tide the party over the next raidwide or so while the healers are being scraped off the floor. They just shouldn't be able to keep everyone alive indefinitely. This is honestly also my gripe with Warrior. If it wants to have crazy self healing (even though I think it should be toned down), that's fine. It's the fact that WAR can literally do a healer's job while also tanking that I find problematic.