#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Aravell]

I would argue (and have argued) that viability alone is not enough for how this community optimizes fights, and that need to have things not just viable but more or less functionally equivalent in overall damage contribution (within a certain margin of error, anyway) introduces a significant limiting factor on how distinct and different from each other you can make jobs within a role.

And I'm pointing out that it's a big mistake to care about player-created metas. If every job is viable, people that lock out certain jobs in regular PF would be seen as the memes that they are, as long as the jobs are reasonably balanced.

So someone will lock out jobs that aren't optimal, so what? WHM was never optimal except for 1 patch and nobody really locks out WHM. You can't achieve a balance that can completely break a player-created meta unless every job does the exact same things with different skins, and I don't have to point out why that's a bad idea.

[Bobby66]

And I'm pointing out that it's a big mistake to care about player-created metas. If every job is viable, people that lock out certain jobs in regular PF would be seen as the memes that they are, as long as the jobs are reasonably balanced.

So someone will lock out jobs that aren't optimal, so what? WHM was never optimal except for 1 patch and nobody really locks out WHM. You can't achieve a balance that can completely break a player-created meta unless every job does the exact same things with different skins, and I don't have to point out why that's a bad idea.

That "so what" seems to be a crux of SE design philosophy. To get that SE to change from that philosophy a major shift would have to happen within the community. Their track record has shown they are not a fan of player created meta that excludes certain jobs, at one point they were sure but the community did speak out against such metas.