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    Somnolence's Avatar
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    Ixa X'phele
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNublet View Post
    You guys are hilarious. Healer queue is already instant due to a lack of healers.
    I just did quick glance at the Europe Raiding Central discord and it seems healers are the most sought at role atm for statics.

    In a perfect world, the role should be in a state where 25% of the people play it.

    Or - some healer mains won't like this - in a state where people that don't main them can pick them up and play them while having fun.
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNublet View Post
    You guys are hilarious. Healer queue is already instant due to a lack of healers.
    Just tried it for expert, main scenario and leveling roulettes, and LMAO, true on all 3. Can't get any faster than an instapop.

    I got the 30 minute lockout for declining so can't try any other roulettes but I'm pretty sure they are all instant except maybe alliance roulette, which requires more dps roles.
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    Luma Deahaart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty_Inkwell View Post
    I've started playing shortly before EW dropped.
    Then you don't know the full extent of the issues. You just don't know any different, sounds harsh but it's true. If you'd like to know more, go read the thread, look at the ample examples laid out by more articulate users than me.
    If not then, ok... thanks for the bump!
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dusty_Inkwell View Post
    Been just following this silly thread since a couple days and YT shoving healer strike vids into my face also kept me up to date. I've started playing shortly before EW dropped. I have been a healer ever since. I do savage when I get fc or friends to form a group I can join (I ain't ever gonna touch pf hell) and I've been enjoying healer all this time. I play 99.9% exclusively as Sage and I still love the hell outta that job.
    If there's anything I would like to change, it's just more chances to use heals more often. I don't want more dps, just more healing situations. But if you run daily roulettes, theres plenty of runs where you get to heal a crapton, because people are new and don't know how to play or dodge or whatever the hell is going on.

    I personally never had much of an issue and I certainly won't strike. You go and stop playing your healers, while I enjoy even faster ques as healer /shrug
    We can have both more healing and more interesting DPS options, and that's also what these folks are going to advocate for. They're not mutually exclusive.

    If you're hell bent on playing healer that's also up to you. Nobody but you pay your own sub. Enjoy the game, dawntrail, and your time with your friend.
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    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

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    Sakura Ichijo
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    To be perfectly honest, I probably missed that thread (#HEALERSAREQUITTING, that is), because I only visit the forum every odd couple of days and stay for a few days. And I avoid X.
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    But if the basic casual content is boring isnt that a major problem? Shouldnt the dungeons be engaging enough for the role to feel satisfying to play? Or should the only satisfaction be in Savage and Ultimate? Several other MMOs dont have this problem since many dont have dedicated healers or if they do, the class design is made in such a way where this isnt a problem.

    I think you have a problem here where the job design is so out of touch with the playerbase that it causes friction when played in current EW content and below. I do agree that going off a lvl 91 dungeon is not wise. However that 91 dungeon is for sure not as engaging as Zot or Holm from previous opening expansion dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    But if the basic casual content is boring isnt that a major problem? Shouldnt the dungeons be engaging enough for the role to feel satisfying to play? Or should the only satisfaction be in Savage and Ultimate? Several other MMOs dont have this problem since many dont have dedicated healers or if they do, the class design is made in such a way where this isnt a problem.

    I think you have a problem here where the job design is so out of touch with the playerbase that it causes friction when played in current EW content and below. I do agree that going off a lvl 91 dungeon is not wise. However that 91 dungeon is for sure not as engaging as Zot or Holm from previous opening expansion dungeons.
    Can You quickly slap some more examples of such MMO. Because it's clearly not GW2, maybe TESO?
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    Rexipher Evergrey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormhold View Post
    Can You quickly slap some more examples of such MMO. Because it's clearly not GW2, maybe TESO?
    Well, GW2 is build in mind that each class have their own healing and can live on it.
    However with all the new... whatever they're called, "unique classes", some are more tailored for healing than others.
    So yes and no I guess.

    I played ESO for years and even if they don't have dedicated healers like so, they still have classes that are better at healing than others.
    If you queue for a dungeon there's still the trinity setup.
    And if you raid you want dedicated healers for it.
    But ESO also allow all classes the flexibility to play any role.
    I've tanked as a Nightblade (generally a DPS "rogue") with health leech.
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    Last edited by Evergrey; 06-20-2024 at 11:59 PM.

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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    From what I hear second hand JP community is fine with how it is now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Maltothoris View Post
    It multi-part from what I've heard. They don't agree with the course of action with the strike. That being said, they agree that the state of healing could be a lot better. They are alright with it at the moment but believe there is much room for it to i.prove. That being said, they want the healing to be more in depth.
    Quote Originally Posted by Evergrey View Post
    There was someone from JP commenting here some time ago.
    He came here after someone from here had posted about this Strike on the JP forum and he got a little curious and asked some stuff.
    Mostly tried to understand why people Strike.
    Appears the translation wasn't that well done and didn't leave the best of impression.

    He mentioned that most people who read said post didn't understand why people would Strike and thought it to be excessive.
    Thanks for enlightening that a bit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormhold View Post
    Can You quickly slap some more examples of such MMO. Because it's clearly not GW2, maybe TESO?
    I'm a bloody beginner, but I think there are healer specializations in LoTrO for both Runekeeper and Minstrel. Both can do minor healing even if not pure healers, but they still DPS.
    Rune-keepers must choose during each battle to focus on damaging skills or healing skills. Either choice shifts their Attunement, unlocking more potent skills, but the choice also restricts access to other skills. In addition, they have support skills that may always be used. In Fellowships, a Rune-keeper keeps allies healed, or deals significant damage to foes.
    Lore: Rune-keepers are gifted linguists and masters of true names. With this knowledge, a Rune-keeper crafts powerful rune-words that help the Free Peoples. Through unparalleled mastery of Angerthas and Tengwar runes, a Rune-keeper evokes much more than a normal scribe. Dagor runes deal with battle, Nestad with healing, and Thalas with support.
    The class is inspired by the master Elf-smith Celebrimbor, whose skill with runes of power was unparalleled.
    Rune-Keepers have 2 damage and 1 healing spec.


    Minstrels on the other hand, have a damage spec, a healing spec and a balanced spec that does both damage and heals, as well as buff incoming and outgoing heals with their base skills, IIRC.
    Gameplay: Minstrels are known for their healing abilities, and are capable of dealing respectable damage with War-speech. They have a variety of support skills and special Ballads. Using a Ballad unlocks more potent Ballads, which culminate with powerful Anthems. In Fellowships, a Minstrel keeps allies healed and supported.
    Lore: Middle-earth is a land deeply infused with music, and true Minstrels are skilled at tapping into that power. They weave songs and tales so stirring that their companions' morale will not fail, and they will be driven to perform greater feats of prowess. They can even utter words of true power, and ward against the forces of darkness with their Anthems.
    This class was inspired by Lúthien Tinúviel, whose Elven voice beguiled friend and foe alike.
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    Last edited by TBerry; 06-21-2024 at 12:32 AM.

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