#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[sharknado]

There is the need to be a walling content, it is not okay for people to not be able to heal (or not be able to tank) a W2W pull at level 100, and if they refuse to improve, they can spend 40 minutes in a dungeon, at this point it's a choice.

The game doesn't mandate job stones or job quests, and the offender would have to try really hard to get a valid report against this. One of the key points for Endwalker was getting FF solo players that are afraid of multiplayer games (wherever such playerbase exists). This resulted in solo trust support for all of MSQ and even simplification of some dungeons due to trust limitations.

You also can't comment on players' performance directly or reference their parse, logs. On the other hand, if something goes wrong people tend to be chill instead of salty. Healers will get the short end of the stick when the content has to function for a very wide player type and skill range.

Yesterday I had Tender Valley where the last boss didn't finish the blob stack mechanic. The run was fast with high DPS and very little healing. Today I had Worqor where one of the DPS (that is leveling up all jobs to 100) why I'm casting Cure 2... next to people with 4 vuln stacks across them. I got a lot of lilies, a lot of Cure 2, and multiple rezes, but the dungeon run was decent. If this were WoW M+ it would take 40-50 min assuming the group would not disband due to trash-someone and going personal really quickly (and then people would use M+ score to make vetted groups of only "good" players excluding everyone else).

They are probably "happy" that mistakes in DT dungeons do require much more healing. And they probably are excited about their "stressful" mechanics that one-shot if someone doesn't know what the mechanic is/does But that's mostly HEALERS and DPS while Tanks just get a vuln stack or two and do not notice... usually. And the jobs will be more streamlined/homogenized because that is what they can balance. HW's job identity ended up badly for them.

Came in to check on the joke thread. I heard about this meme from a youtuber, I'm glad to see the meme here in person.

This protest is for direct and barrier healers, while mitigation healers are fine (aside DRK)

[ForsakenRoe]

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[Revash]

The devs seem to do what they want to be honest. Look at how quickly Viper was changed with pretty much no threads or outcry to remove Noxious Gnash.

Don't want to be the buzz killer here but lets not forget that feedback has a recomendation value. The devs can implant it, change it or outright throw in the can. But the feedback itself is not a judge signed court order where the devs are mandated to act on.

[Iedarus]

Came in to check on the joke thread. I heard about this meme from a youtuber, I'm glad to see the meme here in person.

Y'know, I am genuinely curious what it's like to be someone who doesn't try? Why bother trying to overcome challenge when you can pull everything down to your level? Go back to sitting on the bench, kid while the rest of us push for a real game. Don't forget I like my Gatorade Lemon Lime.

[Ayalu]

Please try to stay civil.

[Remember_The_Name]

Green river.jpg

And it will only get worse with MSQ players tide inevitably washing over, veteran players stepping down because they already cleared/geared up this easier savage tier and the general lull between patches driving players away (where content, SE, by the way?).

I am curious what post-Dawntrail time will show us. Another healer shortage...

[OdinelStarrei]

Please try to stay civil.

You're hanging out with some pals in a restaurant when some random guy sits at your table, insults you and your friends, then gets up and leaves.

"Huh, that was weird."

You continue your conversation, and then another random person comes by, says the exact same thing, then gets up and leaves. It happens two more times, with varying levels of engagement, but the same overall dismissiveness.

"What is going on?"

As you are getting dessert, the first guy comes BACK to your table, says "Wow, you guys are still talking? WTF? You were supposed to stop when I showed up!"

"Hey, you're COMING OVER HERE, and TALKING TO US. WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?"

"Guys guys, be civil, chill chill!"

Like, I understand it, I really do, but civility is difficult when you have people who legitimately don't understand, and frankly, don't want to understand why people have issues with supports in this game. They'd much rather deal out sick one liner combos on "stupid elitists" and be in much more practical, productive, and realistic environments than the Official Forum intended for feedback on the battle system, like the ever constructive and positive Youtube comment section or babysitting DF where healers are so overstressed I guess, people apparently cannot help themselves from getting hit and need to be rescued out of basic point blank aoes.

Two way street. If the developers don't respect supports enough to provide actual data, sensible justification for design, actual role design leads or legitimize complaints, why should we expect the players who disagree with us inherently to ever do so? FFXIV deserves the Green River, honestly.

[Aravell]

I'm honestly curious how many people will still be playing healers in DF once they finish levelling all of their jobs? Because that's the relevant number. We don't need to consider the amount of healers during the levelling period, what matters is the amount of people who settle as healer mains and whether that number goes down.

[thegreatonemal]

I'm honestly curious how many people will still be playing healers in DF once they finish levelling all of their jobs? Because that's the relevant number. We don't need to consider the amount of healers during the levelling period, what matters is the amount of people who settle as healer mains and whether that number goes down.

You don't have a way of counting that and you're just moving the goalposts.

[Aravell]

You don't have a way of counting that and you're just moving the goalposts.

I don't need to have a way to count that, only the dev team needs to be able to see it, and if the settled number dips low enough, they can deal with that.

Regardless, I'm not the one that set the goalposts down, so I'm not moving them.