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    Aravell's Avatar
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    The dev team has been stripping meaningful choice away for years. Because having meaningful choice means you can make mistakes, and mistakes breed conflict, and the dev team wants to remove all conflict from the game.

    The choice you made actually mattered years ago when you didn't have 4 buttons that do the exact same thing. Choice no longer matters now when you can press any of your 4 AoE heals and still have one up whenever you need one later.
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    The dev team has been stripping meaningful choice away for years. Because having meaningful choice means you can make mistakes, and mistakes breed conflict, and the dev team wants to remove all conflict from the game.

    The choice you made actually mattered years ago
    Exactly. The choice that mattered was to complain about 0 dps healers, ice mages, melees pressing their combos in random order and basically about everything a tank did.

    These changes which dumbed down the game were not made because bad players complained the game was too hard - they were made because "good" players complained about bad players were not good enough.
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    It’s a good thing not to answer your enemies. I scarcely ever do. Perhaps Emily is more like me than I am like myself. Perhaps she would rather not answer her friends, even. She keeps it all in her heart.

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    Grann Goro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    Exactly. The choice that mattered was to complain about 0 dps healers, ice mages, melees pressing their combos in random order and basically about everything a tank did.

    These changes which dumbed down the game were not made because bad players complained the game was too hard - they were made because "good" players complained about bad players were not good enough.
    Yup.

    That's why a lot of things are boring - in gaming and beyond - : "always hide the differences between people (especially differences in capability), or one way or another you will create problems."

    After years of teaching, I've lost faith to think otherwise...
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    Last edited by Grann-Goro; 08-01-2024 at 09:02 PM.

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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grann-Goro View Post
    Yup.

    That's why a lot of things are boring - in gaming and beyond - : "always hide the differences between people (especially differences in capability), or one way or another you will create problems."

    After years of teaching, I've lost faith to think otherwise...
    The game is being made to generate profit for a for-profit corporation. It's not being made as a character (as in personal qualities) building exercise.

    Ultimately, they're going to make what they feel are the best choices to generate profit. If that means making more of the content accessible to attract and retain more customers, that's what they're going to do.

    What they have to figure out is just how far they can go before the veteran players lost beyond normal attrition starts to exceed the new customers attracted and retain. We can't see those numbers as players. We only guess based on what we see happening in our circle of game friends and acquaintances.

    That's why I like to stress that players should be smart consumers. If the product/service is no longer serving its purpose for you, don't buy it. It has no loyalty to you even if you consider yourself loyal to it.
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grann-Goro View Post
    Yup.

    That's why a lot of things are boring - in gaming and beyond - : "always hide the differences between people (especially differences in capability), or one way or another you will create problems."

    After years of teaching, I've lost faith to think otherwise...
    My sister was a teacher. The stories she'd tell me about how much her class suffered in having to cater to the absolute worst students, that wouldn't try, and didn't care, were appalling. The amount of times she'd get screamed at by entitled parents, furious because their precious angel got the grades they deserved were too damned high, and her administration wouldn't do anything to stop it. Meanwhile, the truly gifted students were ignored, because you can't have someone excel TOO much. Not when Derps Mclazy won't bother to pay attention for even a single day in his life.
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