#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Sharawiwi]

I've seen multiple instances of 0 mits tanks, each and every of my friends has too, countless posts on forum and reddit about it, alas it's all anecdotal evidence.

Their could be an "easy mode" togglable that plays instead of you, it is sthing i'm all for, so people afraid of pushing more than 1 button or responsibilities would be able to play any job in the game in any content, and have a separate queue where only people in "easy mode" are queued.
As for MSQ, just look up the JP forums, limitless complains about the Wuk Lamat msq fight.

But I guess you would feel this need for Savage content ? In the end we're agreeing on the need of a barrier between "normal" and harder content, be it a dps test on dummies or an ability test (look up the mastery trial in Warframe), I just think the harder content starts at expert dungeon and you at Savage. Maybe you'd be a bit harsher on the terrible players if you played healer more, it burdens every aspect of the game when you have people like this in your party, and as a healer you feel it more than anyone else.
And it's even worse when your healers are these laid back players, any instance of stress healing or a complex mechanic turns into a party wipe. So you either play healer to ensure you'll clear your [insert any content] in less than 45 min or you're at the mercy of the dawntrail healers who don't want responsibilities (as you said) and thus don't want, and are not able to, heal or raise the party (I have seen next to no healer since DT hard casting a raise, if they have instant on cooldown, they never raise, it's like they don't know it's possible).

Disagreeing on the last point, I (and a lot of others who have voiced it) definitely need harder gameplay, I play to have fun and I have absolutely none as healer. That's why I switched to GNB and MNK, engaging jobs with rotations and potent healing tools.

[Basteala]

All fair questions - I enjoy the discussion.
Yes; an it is quite possible for a healer to simply spam high heal to heal the tank using a singular mitigation (versus no mits as I don't recall any case of even the worst tanks never using any mitigations) I think we've all seen DPS doing less damage then a LB in Experts (least I have)

Oh I have. There are some tanks that love to pull everything but "save" their CDs for bosses. Healing them sucks. Really sucks.

All fair questions - I enjoy the discussion.
I think your missing my point on the "easy healer" as by the suggested course of action; WHM would not work the way it does now

Butting in here, but where are you finding problems with WHM as an intro class? Applying both HoTs gives the healer a lot of room for error. Holy is very nice in dungeons because if you don't go the full AoE DPS route, you can force the fight to pause and catch your breath--not useless at all. Your special resource is automatic, so you don't really have any extra nonsense to manage. The only thing I can really see that would make this more "beginner friendly" is a fairy of its own for passive healing--but then we're getting into braindead territory.

All fair questions - I enjoy the discussion.
I do not feel that a player should feel obligated to research openers and concepts such as rotational drift; or understanding the 2 minute burst window...I feel Expert/EX is at a decent level and that the notion of injecting difficulty will only overall hurt the endgame health by reducing the endgame population.

For the MSQ? No. For optional content that allegedly advertises some level of difficulty? For Raiding, Experts, and certainly EX/Savage? Sorry, you need to put the big boy pants on. At *least* understanding the 2 minute burst window and having a general idea of what buttons you want to press is something you really should know how to do and it takes like five minutes.

This isn't world of Warcraft where even if you don't want to dedicate those five minutes that you have nothing to do. You have treasure maps, you have hunts and fate trains, and an absolute boatload of side stories you can do unsynced and enjoy even at a complete beginner level after a couple of xpacs. Hell, (some) of the relic quests aren't even that hard. You have things like Hildibrand as well...your endgame isn't going to die because someone doesn't want to spend two seconds asking or looking up a basic rotation.

Also you have to *try* to not know about two minute burst. Someone is inevitably going to talk about it, even if it's just to bitch about class homogenization.

[Ayan_Calvesse]

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I agree with the first point; but generally I could anecdotally never recall a situation of a tank never using mits - interesting note I find too many tanks have a bad habit of waiting till they are 10-20% HP before considering a mit. I notice healers letting tanks dip lower these days now too.

As for the WHM comment the wording I used was terrible; I mean to say if you suddenly added complexity to WHM rotation then it would no longer be the "simple" healer; word limits such but yeah if your going to complicate healer classes then you probably want to leave a summoner esque healer for players to settle into.

To the final point I disagree; I think EX/Expert is to give those lower performing players something to challenge themselves; lets be honest anything below EX/Expert is laughable in difficulty and so I cannot take the player difficulty complaints there in good faith; but I think knowing what buttons to press is a significant difference from understanding a rotation routine for some jobs (admittedly havent played viper yet but have heard its very braindead). I DO agree that for Savage or higher however at that point you should be going outside the game to generally optimize your playstyle; but I think thats just a difference of perspective of where the bar is.

Footnote - I hate the 2 minute window for exactly that reason and admittedly I often see a lot of players not really understanding aligning the 2 minute burst despite the MASSIVE difference it has on a parties success. I am interested to see these forums once Savage comes out tommorrow.

[Bobby66]

Oh I have. There are some tanks that love to pull everything but "save" their CDs for bosses. Healing them sucks. Really sucks.

Idk call me weird but I love healing tanks like that. They make expert roulette bareable.

[Ilenya]

Idk call me weird but I love healing tanks like that. They make expert roulette bareable.

Unfortunate reality. Healing is the most fun when people aren't playing well.

[Bobby66]

Unfortunate reality. Healing is the most fun when people aren't playing well.

100% should not be the case but yeah it really is.

[HealerGuy]

I think you all should stop complaining. It's pretty clear most of you are just bored with a game you've been playing for years.
It's ok, it happens. There are other games out there.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Okay. How does that fix the on-going issues?

[HealerGuy]

There aren't ongoing issues. Just complainers.
Everyone who isn't on these boards doesn't have a problem.

[Kes13a]

I agree with the first point; but generally I could anecdotally never recall a situation of a tank never using mits - interesting note I find too many tanks have a bad habit of waiting till they are 10-20% HP before considering a mit. I notice healers letting tanks dip lower these days now too.

that has been happening for a while. some do that as a game, some to make it more "exciting" I suppose