I can feel the goal posts moving as we speakTime for a fresh batch of popcorn. Another no healer clear.
https://x.com/jooooonside/status/1817629545379348577
As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.
I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess
Yeah, this is one spot where I was disappointed, too. Had finally gotten into AST at the end of EW and liked that card system; not a fan of the new one and AST has gone on the back burner again. Still loving SCH just as much, though.Just lvling astro ,and I hate that they turned 2 cards into another 2 random barriers and heal buffs ,There was one healer job that had something extra going on , giving out them dps buffs, and keeping busy, now that's gone too , more heals and barriers bc 90% of my skills wasn't enough .
I'm starting to experience and see why healers are getting sick and tired , and why there's always a lack of healers in endgame rn .
This is bad, ppl complained about healer homogenization and in response they homogenized even the few unique features that some jobs had.
Random anecdotes or anomalies don't mean much. It'll always waffle back and forth between tanks and healers. So far in DT, I have never had a tank queue go anything more than a few minutes, even when I'm queuing for very specific odd content for WT. And sometimes it's the healer queue that does that instead. For example, I ran my four Arcadion raids yesterday...tried first as healer and had a queue that didn't pop within a couple minutes...switched to tank...all 4 wings insta-popped each time I queued as tank.As a tank I am starting to have 5-15 min wait times for stuff.
Things will just go as they've always gone, especially with an expansion featuring both new classes as DPS. The role most needed will just keep meandering back and forth between tanks and healers as it always has.
*Shrugs shoulders* Not even worth getting popcorn for. Show me random groups of "nobodies" doing this on the regular and I'll bring the butter.Time for a fresh batch of popcorn. Another no healer clear.
I don't understand.Time for a fresh batch of popcorn. Another no healer clear.
https://x.com/jooooonside/status/1817629545379348577
I see no less than 4 healers in this team.
They even are at the center of the picture.
Retired healer
“I don’t care that good people can do high end content without healers wait till it’s randoms”
Well for 1 random pickup groups of tanks can already clear vali with near no effort and two no matter how good they are nobody clears content with a lack of tanks or savage with a lack of DPS. Do we not see a problem here or are people just wilfully blind at this point
As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.
I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess
Also back to some other things I noticed with Asto, is that sometimes you're basically useless in some dungeons , especially pre-90 ,depending on the tank... Astro always had low dps, but made up for for it with the party buffs, but now that is reduced to 1 single dps buff ! You do unlock some dps skills on higher lvl,but on lower lvls in roulettes, you have next to no damaging skills and you're buffs are gone too..Did they forget that not all people play lvl 90-100 ? Sure if you want to be an omni healer and all you do is heal , and don't mind dungeons taking forever than its perfect !
Yeah idk, there's the power of two healers spread between these four tanks + the summoner.
I don't see this as being more efficient either. Must come about to the same.
Seems like the PLD's used their burst windows to heal instead too ? :P
Different way to run it, not a better way. Healers still relevant.
I celebrate the fact the game is flexible enough to allow us to do this myself.
This topic is so funny to me, and I say this as a main healer. :P
I wouldn't mind having actual challenge with them, but I feel this topic is way overblown lol.
Also, my queues still instapop as tank. Where are the strikers ? :P
If you're bothered by feeling useless as a healer, run 3 dps and a tank with your friendos.
Either you'll have a blast, either you'll realize that you're actually useful as healer.
I have done that in EW, playing PLD with 3 other dps friends. Cleared Lapis, Haam and Subterrane with that.
I did absolutely realize that I'm useful as a healer doing that though, and it was way more stressful for everyone than just having a healer.
Also like, let them cook, they gave me some solid dps options on sge for DT.
Think they've heard you all, but a ship this big takes time to turn.
Last edited by jdtuggey; 07-29-2024 at 09:41 AM.
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If you're talking about me, I only heard about this through youtube content a while ago, and I haven't paid attention.
Looked at top threads on the forum and peeked to see what it's really about.
I haven't contributed to this discussion before this, and honestly, I have no stakes in it, even as a main healer. :P
I never set any """goalposts""", I just don't care.![]()
We aren't defined by our mistakes, but by how we deal with them. ♥
"You come to my home uninvited and tell me how you "don't care"? What a fool you are!"If you're talking about me, I only heard about this through youtube content a while ago, and I haven't paid attention.
Looked at top threads on the forum and peeked to see what it's really about.
I haven't contributed to this discussion before this, and honestly, I have no stakes in it, even as a main healer. :P
I never set any """goalposts""", I just don't care.
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If anything, that clear just shows how stupidly overblown when people says "omg EX1 needs sooo much healing!!!". Where's the need for Lilybell? Divine Caress? Seraphism? Philosophia? Macrocosmos? etc.
"Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."
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