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  1. #7261
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    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Unfortunately there are just some griefers in this game, and healers have tools to grief harder than the other roles. For example, a couple weeks ago while tanking when I got a Tankbuster a bored healer pulled me into everyone else with Rescue. The timing was intentional.

    Witholding healing as purposely and obvious as this person is also griefing.

    Unfortunately we have some players like the person above who honestly believe that this person was learning (lol), as though if you played enough to unlock sage you wouldn't know that the tank should be healed.
    You have got to be kidding, "healers have tools to grief harder than the other roles", this is coming from someone with a tank at level 90? I mean this discussion is pointless, anyone can come up with stories, but that is just wrong.
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  2. #7262
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    You have got to be kidding, "healers have tools to grief harder than the other roles", this is coming from someone with a tank at level 90? I mean this discussion is pointless, anyone can come up with stories, but that is just wrong.
    Tank's can't rescue tankbusters into an entire raid. Can they manually try to run into the raid? Sure. I mean you can just move away from them. But they can't yank other people into deaths, against their will, like Rescue can. I've seen Rescue used to troll more than any other instance of trolling in this game.

    Tanks can what....just not use their stance? That may work once before the dps and ehaler just wait for them to turn it on.
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  3. #7263
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmarrIrenesch View Post
    There are plenty of people who are unhappy with the current state of the healer jobs, partake in the strike discussions but also queue into duties as healer. Some of them to cut the insane DPS queue times, some to do stupid shit because "the game doesn't need healers and it's ez anyway so it's whatever lmao." It's unfortunate, but it is what it is. We can't control everyone taking part in this or sharing the sentiment to act the same way.



    Then do tell; How could have I helped a person intentionally griefing?
    Do tell, how many years have you been playing this game? How many parties have you joined? Here are some helpful options if you haven't found them yet https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/game_...ght%20players.
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  4. #7264
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    You have got to be kidding, "healers have tools to grief harder than the other roles", this is coming from someone with a tank at level 90? I mean this discussion is pointless, anyone can come up with stories, but that is just wrong.
    Allow me to introduce you to this wonderful ability called Rescue and how funny it is to use to pull people to their deaths as a goof and a gag. It's been happening since its introduction. It's nothing new and you refusing to believe anyone would use it as a tool to grief does not make it any less of a tool to grief.

    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    Do tell, how many years have you been playing this game? How many parties have you joined? Here are some helpful options if you haven't found them yet https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/game_...ght%20players.
    I'm starting to believe you were the SGE I talked about.
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  5. #7265
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmarrIrenesch View Post
    it feels like 90% of the time I get a healer who is so fed up with the game and has decided to make it everyone else's problem.

    Also, what is this current trend of SCHs not having their fairy out?
    Good chance your healers just sucked TBH, most of us on here are not even queueing as healers and honestly we dont want to disrupt anybodies game play. As for the fairy they probly forgot or they just ate their fairy for stacks.
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  6. #7266
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    I had dinner earlier...
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  7. #7267
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmarrIrenesch View Post
    Allow me to introduce you to this wonderful ability called Rescue and how funny it is to use to pull people to their deaths as a goof and a gag. It's been happening since its introduction. It's nothing new and you refusing to believe anyone would use it as a tool to grief does not make it any less of a tool to grief.



    I'm starting to believe you were the SGE I talked about.
    Given your lack of reading comprehension, since I have not stated anywhere that no one has ever done so, it's pointless to waste any more time here.

    Go ahead and believe whatever your imagination leads you to believe,*shrug* if it helps to deal with it should it happen to you in future.
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  8. #7268
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    Quote Originally Posted by IDontPetLalas View Post
    Given your lack of reading comprehension...
    Excuse me? My reading comprehension? I'm sorry, but who here (presumably) read a story about a griefer, hyperfocused on a negative word used to describe the said griefer and started going on about how we should've helped them, so they could help us in return?
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  9. #7269
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmarrIrenesch View Post
    Wanting healers to be better is all fine and dandy, I started as a WHM and would love to see a more complex version of it someday, but can grumpy strikers please stop queueing as healers and making everything that much worse for everyone? I've wanted to get back into tanking, but it feels like 90% of the time I get a healer who is so fed up with the game and has decided to make it everyone else's problem.

    Dear SGE, yes, I am a WAR, but this is the Sunken Temple of Qarn. I don't have the insane self-sustain at this level. Why is the Kardia on you? Stop spamming Eukrasian Prognosis on the DRG, I am literally dying to single pack pulls here, you absolute cretin. Also I saw you using your entire kit to keep yourself alive when I ate shit and died. I am going to scream. Just a crumb of healing I am begging you.

    Also, what is this current trend of SCHs not having their fairy out? Does anyone have Esuna on their hotbar? Why are you suddenly wanting to tank as AST? What is the meaning of life? Why do I even exist?
    Report them if you really think they're trolling you.

    One can say that the SGE could've been a striker that's grieving intentionally, but what prevents another to say that the SGE is just genuinely bad AND is a perfect example of what's potentially happening when regular vet healers stops healing and now you're more likely to get the healers that are picking up the job cause "I want fast queues!"?
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  10. #7270
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    Quote Originally Posted by SigmarrIrenesch View Post
    Wanting healers to be better is all fine and dandy, I started as a WHM and would love to see a more complex version of it someday, but can grumpy strikers please stop queueing as healers and making everything that much worse for everyone? I've wanted to get back into tanking, but it feels like 90% of the time I get a healer who is so fed up with the game and has decided to make it everyone else's problem.

    Dear SGE, yes, I am a WAR, but this is the Sunken Temple of Qarn. I don't have the insane self-sustain at this level. Why is the Kardia on you? Stop spamming Eukrasian Prognosis on the DRG, I am literally dying to single pack pulls here, you absolute cretin. Also I saw you using your entire kit to keep yourself alive when I ate shit and died. I am going to scream. Just a crumb of healing I am begging you.

    Also, what is this current trend of SCHs not having their fairy out? Does anyone have Esuna on their hotbar? Why are you suddenly wanting to tank as AST? What is the meaning of life? Why do I even exist?
    Maybe you should stop blaming bad players on the healer strike because the striking healers aren't what you're describing unless there's a handful of jerks who were specifically told not to grief.

    Yes, there has been an influx of bad healers. The reason is twofold - mostly it's because a lot of people came back for DT and they're rusty as all hell or were not that good to begin with. That and some people only pick healer for the short queues.
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